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| Quote: CHEADLE LEYTHER "One decision that seems to have not been underlined on this thread, was the suspension of Albert Kelly on the morning of the qualifier against Leigh. I remember Jukesy saying what a lift it gave the team. Surely he could have been disciplined after such a vital match?'"
Much as he was very, very good in 2015, by this point it is his initial signing that (with hindsight) seems the more questionable decision.
He was done at Rovers by the Leigh game, and didn't play for us again.
Because we went down by such a fine margin, there are any number of decisions you can look back at and say that could have been the difference. Lessons from Hull KR, 2016 could have its own thread. If we win promotion, I expect it will. In the short-term though the focus has to be on adapting to the Championship, trying to emulate what Leigh did last year and avoid what has befallen Bradford.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "Much as he was very, very good in 2015, by this point it is his initial signing that (with hindsight) seems the more questionable decision.
He was done at Rovers by the Leigh game, and didn't play for us again.
Because we went down by such a fine margin, there are any number of decisions you can look back at and say that could have been the difference. Lessons from Hull KR, 2016 could have its own thread. If we win promotion, I expect it will. In the short-term though the focus has to be on adapting to the Championship, trying to emulate what Leigh did last year and avoid what has befallen Bradford.'"
Correct,well said.
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| a few things fell into place for leigh last year ie players available at the right time, run of the ball , while their offence was enough their defence was shocking at times but they got away with it just
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| Quote: rover 2000 "a few things fell into place for leigh last year ie players available at the right time, run of the ball , while their offence was enough their defence was shocking at times but they got away with it just'"
Then it shows what you will be up against.
Also remember that when new players come in,it can take time to get used to set plays and structure and to gel,not easy when you've got the middle 8s to contend with as well.
I'll tell you now, if you don't rotate your squad properly, and if you have any injuries to key players come the middle 8s, you've no chance of promotion.
If you think Leigh was lucky to get promoted, you need to pay a visit to specsavers.
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| I said their defence was shocking at times things fell into place for them that's my opinion just did enough in attack cannot see the word lucky in my last post
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| Quote: rover 2000 "I said their defence was shocking at times things fell into place for them that's my opinion just did enough in attack cannot see the word lucky in my last post'"
Quite, but the job was done in the games you're alluding to(which i assume was them on tv) before our defense went poor.
When you say things fell into place, other than the Salford game when yes i thought we rode our luck a bit in that one,but our defense was pretty good as well,what else are you alluding to?
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| Leigh learnt the lesson of 2015 and peaked at the right time when it mattered in 2016. They also made sure they had cash available and cap space available at the business end of the season too.
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| we will not learn a lesson from leigh if we concede 193 points and have a points difference of 30 our attack is unproven so we need a better defence than you had that's my point good luck to you in superleague
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| Quote: rover 2000 "we will not learn a lesson from leigh if we concede 193 points and have a points difference of 30 our attack is unproven so we need a better defence than you had that's my point good luck to you in superleague'"
Remember pal, If you score more than your opponents you win,and that's what Leigh did.
Good luck to you guys in your quest for promotion,but if you think there are no lessons to be learnt from Leigh,then think again.
BTW - If your attack is unproven,how do you know if you need a better defense?
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| I am sort of dreading the first game, with Bradford just look what happened when Salford lost points they played us first and beat us to prove a point
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| Quote: Cokey "
Good luck to you guys in your quest for promotion,but if you think there are no lessons to be learnt from Leigh,then think again.
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I agree with this, if only the lesson that the owner shouldn't predict an unbeaten season until at least waiting to see if they manage to win the first game
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| Quote: Cokey "Remember pal, If you score more than your opponents you win,and that's what Leigh did.'"
Yeah but in 2015 Leigh were all about the attack. It served them well until stiffer opposition came around, and then they completely folded. *Completely*.
2016 it was a similar theory on the back of a defensive structure and they structured the season, deliberately, around peaking at the 8s. And it came off *completely*
There are different routes to the same goal.
Good luck to both sides this year!
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| Quote: vbfg "Yeah but in 2015 Leigh were all about the attack. It served them well until stiffer opposition came around, and then they completely folded. *Completely*.
2016 it was a similar theory on the back of a defensive structure and they structured the season, deliberately, around peaking at the 8s. And it came off *completely*
There are different routes to the same goal.
Good luck to both sides this year!'"
That's right,and that's why there are lesson's to be learnt,as 2016 opposed to 2015 was evident.
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| Quote: vbfg "Yeah but in 2015 Leigh were all about the attack. It served them well until stiffer opposition came around, and then they completely folded. *Completely*.
2016 it was a similar theory on the back of a defensive structure and they structured the season, deliberately, around peaking at the 8s. And it came off *completely*
There are different routes to the same goal.
Good luck to both sides this year!'"
We didn't ' fold ' as such , just crucial decisions and bounces of the ball slowly eroded our confidence , last season everything just seemed to go our way
I was much more confident going into the 8s in 2015 than last year
I don't believe you can manufacture ' peaking ' , we did however have a much fitter as in less players carrying injuries and fatigue last year , we recruited several players who had spent the season on the fringes at their previous clubs , so we were fresh going into the 8 s
Best of luck this year , expect to be playing you in the 8s , but hope not to
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