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| Quote: MrPhilb "So when we had the first past the post system are you telling us the best team didn't win the league every season? ![]()
Sometimes they dont do they. The team that wins isnt always the best team, they just pick up more points. When we won 13 games on the bounce the other year we only played well in 2 of those games. I would therefore argue that even though we got to the GF we weren't the 2nd best team in the league. We just had other things that went for us such as luck etc.
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| Quote: Sheldon "its fair enough bud, he should have never been moved from hooker.
i am actually glad we didn't offer him a equal or greater deal if he can get sl rugby its better than playing reserves. the potential fee could have put other clubs off.'"
No guarantee he'll get SL rugby with Rovers. |
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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "No guarantee he'll get SL rugby with Rovers.'"
no theres not but he'll have a better chance, especailly with hkr only having 2 reconised hookers. |
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| Quote: Big Dave T "Incorrect. The 3 teams that pick up the least points always finish in the bottom 3. There are varying dependencies that mean they arent always the worst teams. (unless the only thing that matters is picking up the 2 points which imo it most definately isnt)'"
So you don't think Celtic, Salford and Hull FC have been the worst teams overall this season? Who has been worse, overall?
And if picking up 2 points isn't the only thing that matter, what else does? The Fair Play index? |
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| Quote: R.B.A "There are always going to be instances of players leaving a lower placed club to a bigger side and having a positive impact there. Scott Wheeldon has proven that this year.
However, i think it is fair to say that in the vast majority of cases that wouldnt be the end result. Common sence tells you that if a player isnt good enough for a bottom 3 side then the chances are he wont be good enough for a top 4 side.'"
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| Quote: j_hunter_hkr "So you don't think Celtic, Salford and Hull FC have been the worst teams overall this season? Who has been worse, overall?
And if picking up 2 points isn't the only thing that matter, what else does? The Fair Play index?'"
I think what he's trying to say is Hull are better than Rovers  |
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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "No guarantee he'll get SL rugby with Rovers.'"
I would imagine Rovers are still in the market for a new hooker however the fact that Hodgson was moved to the back row at Hull probably swayed his decision more then guarenteed 1st team rugby.
The one thing Rovers seem to have guarenteed Josh is the hooking role be it reserve level or 1st team and you cant blame the kid for wanting to play in his favoured position. |
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| Quote: Big Dave T "I didnt say all of the players did i? I agree that lots wouldnt be good enough. But at the same time only a fool would write all 75 off like RBA has done? ![]()
When did i right off all 75 players? Show me.
I am righting off (if that is the right term) the majority of players RELEASED from bottom 3 sides.
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| Quote: j_hunter_hkr "So you don't think Celtic, Salford and Hull FC have been the worst teams overall this season? Who has been worse, overall?
And if picking up 2 points isn't the only thing that matter, what else does? The Fair Play index?'"
I value performance and effort as well as getting the 2 points. Celtic have put in some very good performances. On paper i dont think Hull FC are one of the worst teams and lots of things have contributed to where we are in the league. But im pretty sure that most SL teams would take a large percentage of our players should they become available. We've been poor because of poor coaching, simple as that. (obviously a reasonable debate will go out of the window here as you accuse me of FC bias etc) |
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| Quote: MrPhilb "I think what he's trying to say is Hull are better than Rovers ![]()
Not according to the SL table we arent! 
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| Quote: Sheldon "no theres not but he'll have a better chance, especailly with hkr only having 2 reconised hookers.'"
Hull now only have 2 recognised hookers and one of them is very injury prone.
Rovers have Fisher, Cockayne and Murrell who i suspect will all play there in front of Josh to begin with. |
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| Quote: Big Dave T "I value performance and effort as well as getting the 2 points. Celtic have put in some very good performances. On paper i dont think Hull FC are one of the worst teams and lots of things have contributed to where we are in the league. But im pretty sure that most SL teams would take a large percentage of our players should they become available. We've been poor because of poor coaching, simple as that. (obviously a reasonable debate will go out of the window here as you accuse me of FC bias etc)'"
So with your current squad and all of it's reported problems where would Justin have taken your squad of players? and I don't mean Pozition |
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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "Hull now only have 2 recognised hookers and one of them is very injury prone.
Rovers have Fisher, Cockayne and Murrell who i suspect will all play there in front of Josh to begin with.'"
but our coaching staff didn't see him as a hooker. |
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| Quote: R.B.A "When did i right off all 75 players? Show me.
I am righting off (if that is the right term) the majority of players RELEASED from bottom 3 sides.'"
Well if the rumours are true youre talking to Paul King and Motu Tony to name but 2 on top of signing Hodgson and Haynes last season and you took Scott Wheeldon etc etc.
The only player we havent released was Cooke. (and we've been poor for 3 seasons now)
Does that mean Justin sees players on their merits and doesnt approach the bottom 3 clubs like you do? |
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| Quote: MrPhilb "So with your current squad and all of it's reported problems where would Justin have taken your squad of players? and I don't mean Pozition ![]()
Top 2.
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