Probably a bit of both really. Most rovers fans are quite realistic in our expectations although we do have some who go over the top at times. Whereas as a non Hull FC supporter, it seems as though most of your supporters feel they have a god given right to be successful rather than looking at things realistically. All just my opinion of course.

I think Rovers fans current levels of expectation are quite low, but the optimism is based on performances thus far and not necessarily results. We can all see what the team are trying to acheive and (with a couple of notable exceptions) there is improvement game on game. We also had a tick list of items to sort:

Get a replacement hooker - Done
Tie half backs to longer deal - Done
Replace Weyman with big prop - Done
Replace Bailey - What you've never had, you've never missed.

I think we had had our fill during the sandercock years of a dour coach with dour tactics and going to CP had become a chore, we aren't going to be GF winners but we do look entertaining and we are improving. We have assembled a team that should be in a better position than last year and has got the crowd singing a bit. Hopefully we can get a good cup run and have some decent wins under our belt.

We need to add, improve away form to Stans list and I think we'll go well.

Love that one Stan. You'd have got better value swapping him for a new waste paper bin.

Can't speak for others, but I feel a real connection again with the team and club @ Rovers. I see a group of players who have embraced what we're all about. There's a likeable honesty and work ethic on the pitch, equalled with what appears great team spirit. This team spirit has then transferred to us the fans and appears reciprocated and very much appreciated by the players.

We're by no means a championship team and will have to scrap every minute to compete, but what we've got so far is a group of players who take pride in wearing the shirt, and us fans are proud to acknowledge that right now.

To add to the on field improvement, off the pitch the club, (as the Goroka Gen-ius mentioned) ... are quietly and efficiently going about improvements for now and the future.

We tried but couldn't fit it under the cap.

The aim in this upcoming derby should be to humiliate the enemy.

Unfortunately the newly signed Tilse won't be in the team, so it will take an extraordinary effort to suppress the opposing pack. It can be done but it won't be easy. The biggest threat in the Hull FC pack is probably Minichiello, so he ought to be watched and contained.

With Green replacing Allgood where in a simialr position to Saints, throw in Burke and we are slightly stronger.

Or possibly the other way round...........

20k sold which is a cracking effort from both sets of fans! Still dreading it though

All together now, "They find a dead rat and they think it's a treat..."

I just wish you would clear off & anoy some other clubs supporters, your obsession with every thing Australian is getting very tiresome. As you appear to know nothing about Hull or its clubs I will point out that there are over 20 British players on the field tonight & 20,000 plus fans who also know what they are watching we do not need a faux French man to tell us how we are doing.

Zut alors! That was a bit harsh.