FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Hull KR > Salford
67 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, R.B.A , Anakin Skywalker , Mild Rover
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach30345
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200718 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
32641_1503834456.jpg
The poor man's bonaire:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_32641.jpg



Quote: Mild Rover "From what saw of the forum, I thought Peacock spoke very well and put a bit of flesh on the bones of the 5YP.

He's clearly determined that come Hell or high water, we're going to break the cycle of short-termism and put some firmer, more rigid structures in place.

And that's great, but every choice is a sacrifice. If we're going to be less flexible, stay out the loan market, have a medium- to long-term focus in recruitment and retention, then that carries risks. Everything carries risks, so again that is fine - but I think they need to be acknowledged.

He challenged a guy as to why playing 'kids' could or would see us relegated. The risk is (obviously) that playing inexperienced players, in a team that really can't afford to carry anything even vaguely resembling a passenger, might mean we're simply not good enough this year. And the outcome of this year will clearly impact on the plan.

Knowing that we, as fans, can choose to buy in or not. Despite my reservations, I am. We've just got to survive this and then maybe, the plan will bear fruit. I just about prefer that to the old model - though ask me again in October, and I might have changed my mind.'"


Is his plan any different to what Hull are doing? Bring through your youth, look to sign good young players and tie them down to long contracts, get better value out of your cap and look for off field improvements to conditioning and rehab. Pretty obvious to me but actually implementing it effectively and achieving anything at the end of it is the challenge. I suspect most of the teams in SL have the same ideas and he's modelling it on leeds who don;t seem to be doing too well with it currently

RankPostsTeam
Moderator12646
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
33809_1522680904.png
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_33809.png

Moderator


Quote: Jake the Peg "Is his plan any different to what Hull are doing? Bring through your youth, look to sign good young players and tie them down to long contracts, get better value out of your cap and look for off field improvements to conditioning and rehab. Pretty obvious to me but actually implementing it effectively and achieving anything at the end of it is the challenge. I suspect most of the teams in SL have the same ideas and he's modelling it on leeds who don;t seem to be doing too well with it currently'"


Yeah, in conception I don't think it is dramatically different to what a few other teams are doing or are trying to do. I don't think Peacock has some wondrous cure-all up his sleeve.
Parts of it remind me of Rovers at the start of the decade - Willie Mason being the big name 'catalyst' back then, and 'building for the future' focusing on developing young players with potential. The execution of a plan is what matters.
Similarly, much of what you've said about Hull's current model is similar to the language used when Pearson first arrived and tied a good young player like Joe Arundel to a long contract.

Long-term or short-term focused, the important thing is that decisions are good.

Morgan signed well - he seemed to have good contacts, via his agent iirc. Motu Tony has got good value from players with Polynesian heritage. I'm not sure either was down to a master plan or underlying philosophy, just sensible opportunism.

But all that said, having some basic, solid values and structures in place will hopefully be worth this difficult season. Maybe this is for us, very roughly, what 2014 was for you.

RankPostsTeam
International Star7194
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2019Jul 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result:



Quote: hull2524 "Don't worry peacocks got a 5 year plan don't you know'"

You've got really boring lately

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach7382
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
45295_1698513085.jpg
once a black and white always a black and white COYH:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_45295.jpg



Somebody hasn't taken there sense of humour pill today

RankPostsTeam
International Star416No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201312 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2016Dec 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: fun time frankie "You've got really boring lately'"

Lately?

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member25774No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Salford, Leeds, Rovers and Hudds in the middle 8's is a frightening, but exciting prospect.

I reckon Widnes and Wakey still get dragged into it, massive game for you next.

RankPostsTeam
International Star7194
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2019Jul 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result:



Quote: hull2524 "Somebody hasn't taken there sense of humour pill today'"

No still got a sense of humour you've just got to be better with your banter at least Jake mixes it up a bit

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach11924
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200718 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Aug 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
30596_1286642206.jpg
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle. Frederick Douglas:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_30596.jpg



How we can go from the enthusiastic desire filled team to the pathetic can't be bothered shizzle of that first half in six days beggars belief.

Discounting a couple of dropped balls by Salford we defended one. Count it. One. Set in our own half.

Sio looks done, one of the few to care about being a professional.

Clarkson and Mulhern, I just don't see the point.

Sanford weren't great today, but they were efficient and effective, they communicated with each other and stuck to a game plan.

That first half we lost pretty much every single collision and gave easy metres away, classic case of MGS after last week.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5410No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
34340_1322737278.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_34340.jpg



Quote: Sandro II Terrorista "How we can go from the enthusiastic desire filled team to the pathetic can't be bothered shizzle of that first half in six days beggars belief.

Discounting a couple of dropped balls by Salford we defended one. Count it. One. Set in our own half.

Sio looks done, one of the few to care about being a professional.

Clarkson and Mulhern, I just don't see the point.

Sanford weren't great today, but they were efficient and effective, they communicated with each other and stuck to a game plan.

That first half we lost pretty much every single collision and gave easy metres away, classic case of MGS after last week.'"


I was going to post my summary but that sums it up to a tee.

RankPostsTeam
International Star1119No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 201212 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2020Mar 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Our problems.

Young players are inconsistent. We're relying on too many at present.

In balanced squad and weak weak leadership.

2 big games. The cup and this which would have given our season purpose and.......we don't show up.

No mental strength. That comes from the coach and captain. Ours are weak.

RankPostsTeam
International Star3065No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201213 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



I wonder if this 5 year plan involves any defence training

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach30345
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200718 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
32641_1503834456.jpg
The poor man's bonaire:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_32641.jpg



Quote: bishops finger "I wonder if this 5 year plan involves any defence training'"



year 4. they're going to sell the hamstring fixing machine and buy a couple of inflatable dolls from ann summers for tackling practice

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2862
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2017Dec 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
47753_1430033772.jpg
JOHN THE REDBOY I have been a rovers fan all my life and my grandkids are as well:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47753.jpg



the one good thing that seems to be coming out of all this is minns 5 trys in 2 games but i still think if possible we need a couple of good loan players to get us threw the season

RankPostsTeam
International Star416No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201312 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2016Dec 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: cravenpark1 "the one good thing that seems to be coming out of all this is minns 5 trys in 2 games but i still think if possible we need a couple of good loan players to get us threw the season'"

Well, that's not going to happpen.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach13126No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2023Feb 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
12839_1486909898.png
[b:16wvcohs]"To play your best football you need players with enthusiasm and drive and energy." - [i:16wvcohs]Peter Sterling[/i:16wvcohs][/b:16wvcohs] [quote="Adam Pearson said not":16wvcohs][b:16wvcohs]I know there are two franchises and two clubs (in Hull) and that will remain forever more[/b:16wvcohs][/quote:16wvcohs]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_12839.png



Quote: Jake the Peg "Is his plan any different to what Hull are doing? Bring through your youth, look to sign good young players and tie them down to long contracts, get better value out of your cap and look for off field improvements to conditioning and rehab. Pretty obvious to me but actually implementing it effectively and achieving anything at the end of it is the challenge.'"


Indeed. One of the hardest things is to stick to the plan and ride the criticism - sometimes vitriolic - that will inevitably come from fans about the coach who is tasked with implementing the plan. Important to hold your nerve as a club wouldn't you say ?

67 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, R.B.A , Anakin Skywalker , Mild Rover
67 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, R.B.A , Anakin Skywalker , Mild Rover



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


4.77978515625:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Planning for next season
Leyther in n
178
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
39s
Rumours and signings v9
NickyKiss
28895
1m
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
MadDogg
4018
1m
TV Games - Not Hull
UllFC
3080
3m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63221
3m
Game - Song Titles
Cokey
40732
3m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2593
4m
Transfer Talk V5
The Biffs Ba
503
4m
Fixtures 2025
UllFC
65
4m
Planning for next season
Leyther in n
178
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2024
Butcher
5
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Butcher
5
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
jonh
5
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
12
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Butcher
41
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Butcher
20
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
487
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
533
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1276
England's Women Demolish The W..
1098
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1342
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1131
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1399
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1930
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2151
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2388
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1960
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2197
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2661
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2093
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2166
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 1,957 80,15514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
 Thu 6th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Hull FC
v
Leigh
 Fri 7th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Castleford
v
Salford
20:00
St.Helens
v
Hull KR
 Sat 8th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
17:30
Catalans
v
Leeds
 Sun 9th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
17:30
Warrington
v
Wakefield
17:30
Wigan
v
Huddersfield
 Thu 20th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R4
20:00
Salford
v
Huddersfield
 Fri 21st Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R4
20:00
St.Helens
v
Warrington
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Planning for next season
Leyther in n
178
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
39s
Rumours and signings v9
NickyKiss
28895
1m
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
MadDogg
4018
1m
TV Games - Not Hull
UllFC
3080
3m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63221
3m
Game - Song Titles
Cokey
40732
3m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2593
4m
Transfer Talk V5
The Biffs Ba
503
4m
Fixtures 2025
UllFC
65
4m
Planning for next season
Leyther in n
178
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2024
Butcher
5
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Butcher
5
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
jonh
5
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
12
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Butcher
41
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Butcher
20
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
487
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
533
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1276
England's Women Demolish The W..
1098
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1342
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1131
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1399
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1930
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2151
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2388
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1960
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2197
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2661
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2093
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2166


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!