What!? He's stupid because he's been found out? No, he's stupid because he shouldn't be doing it in the first place!

Hopefully this will be a wake up call to any other players stupid enough to be taking drugs.

Im not condoning at all - but if they are doing it, there are ways to mask it

FWIW i think regular checks are needed, but the clubs wont be keen as they are aware of players who are doing it im sure

I told you last night about the Murky waters last night,but i put it on your thread instead of Wigans.

As soon as I heard the news, I thought about you and 'your thread'.

Sir, take a bow.

On topic - what a dope Hock is.

Don't talk soft

They cant do anymore, they test at training, they test on match days, it would cost a fortune to increase it further. Two testers at £100 each per visit. they do 4 or 5 a week and there is 3 or 4 pairings working each day I think too.

i hear he rubs it on his eyeballs so he can look hard

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No 2nd Chances.

Today Wigan tomorrow another SL team possibly our own.

I dont think a person who makes a decision on how he wants to "enjoy" himself is stupid. He knew the risks and was willing to take them as are many other top class rugby league and other sports stars.

I think the RFL can come out of this with heads held quite high too, how many RFU players are publically shamed and more to the point how many internationals are done for drugs use? Is that to say they dont use them?? Nah not by a long shot, the RFL obviously work hard to get whoever is using out of the game and this could be the shock to the system that some players need seeing such a big star getting a two year ban. Lets hope our youngsters coming through are put off his lifestyle.

On another kind of linked topic, he'd be able to go over to America to play the game now wouldn't he? Or does WADA stop him playing all sports all over the world??

I'm not saying there wouldn't be a serious cost implication and I admit I have absolutely no idea as to the logistics of such an operation. However, I would guess that a worst case scenario of losing another couple of England internationals would make Gillette think twice about their sponsorship deal.

All the clubs chair people meet up with Richard Lewis and Nigel Whatsisfatface at least once a year, surely, even in this day and age it's possible to be able to say to the clubs; "Either you sort this problem out or we will with extended testing that you'll have to pay for".

Interestingly I read somewhere on one of the other forums a quote from Hock's brother in law, Kevin Brown that seemed to imply that it was a fairly open secret that Hock had a problem. Fans on other forums seem aware that this is going on, can it really be true that nobody at the clubs know about this and if they do then surely they have a duty of care to their employees.

If that last paragraph breaks the AUP, then apologies GML, please delete it.





Always thought Iestyn would be more a fan of the porcine species.