You obviously see things very differently to TS. Reading your post I could easily become rather depressed.

Hangover bad. ...Maybe was looking on the gloomy side but will have to wait to see who else comes in nearer playoffs.

The reality is we have 23 games to get things right so it's not really a worry how we're playing we seem to be improving every week it will be hard to put in an 80 minute performance when the games won after 15 mins like the Oldham game

Well said Frankie you hit it on the nail has long has we keep winning and we get some good players for the eights and they are good enough to get us out of the championship then everyone will be happy, we are also getting good gates has well wish other teams brought more fans

I truly can't understand the pessimism on this thread. We are averaging 50 points a game at home, conceding on average less then 16 points a game and playing in some terrible conditions.

We don't actually need to get out of 2nd gear, and when the team needs to i.e in a reaction to a team getting at us we are blowing teams away.

The game is allowed to be slower at this level and we are most effective with quick play the balls, super league refs will allow for quicker play the balls and give us a chance to get a roll on.

No point in going 100% every single game and burning out come business end. We are clearly going to walk this league to may as well experiment and try different things while we can until things heat up and get exciting.

I agree to a point. My one worry is that we won't be tested until it really matters. At the moment when we are poor we are still more or less on top and when we look ok we're blowing teams away. I'm hoping that doesn't breed either complacency, instill bad habits or not show us were we really are. Not sure how we solve that issue as the next game could potentially be the biggest blow out yet.

I'm expecting Fev and Toulouse away to be bigger challenges but I think a decent cup run and a draw at a middle to low end SL team could be our best bet

Sheens obviously rates Charlie as the best winger then, if he wasn't part of the coin toss?

Moss for Shaw makes sense, that right edge in the first half was breached twice.

Every time I watch him he seems to me to make no impact at all I seem to be in the minority on this so I'll take a good look at the next game

We have played 5 matches. I presume you and roverswall have both been present on at least some occasions. I agree with him. You have obviously been watching Mulhern to make the statement that he makes no impact at all. It just goes to show how we can physically see the same thing but mentally interpret it in different ways.

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I'm not sure what point your trying to make here Frankie, but this season I have seen a big improvement in Robbie Mulhearn over last in impact and contribution terms.

I have just watched the Sheffield game in full again on Hull KR.TV today as I'm a bit of a Saddo like that. It gives an alternative side on perspective of the same game that I can't get when I watch it from behind or in front on a Sunday. You see things differently like who misses tackles and who is greedy by not passing. You can see offside and study ruck infringements and wonder why we don't compete better for high balls.

Again for me, Mulhearn had a good game and was a good impact forward once again off the bench. Compared to Horne and Salter he looked different class but not as good as Scruton, who has been a welcome revelation.

Also Bobby Blair put a huge and effective defensive stint in and made a few long yardage carries, so perhaps can't understand why people (including me) are on his case this year.

Exactly people see things differently most have said Blair wasn't performing I said he'd been solid which you have just mentioned like I said I'll watch Mulhearn closely next game

TS does not obviously see Ben as the best winger. The changes last week and this he has said are both part of his rotation policy. The fact that the right edge was breached twice does not mean either were Shaw's fault and obviously played no part in the coach's decision to rest him. Ben has been a good servant of the club over the years despite his indiscretions. Hi is not the best player at the club in any position but has valuably versatility value.