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| Have you ever thought that maybe Hudge just doesn't give a stuff anymore but also doesn't want to walk away. He must be fed up of seeing his hard earned cash go to waste every year.
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| Quote: el red "Have you ever thought that maybe Hudge just doesn't give a stuff anymore but also doesn't want to walk away. He must be fed up of seeing his hard earned cash go to waste every year.'"
If he didnt give a stuff then why wouldnt he walk away? Most rational people wouldnt pay such vast amounts of money into something they werent d about. No matter what anyone thinks of him, nobody can question his passion for Hull KR
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| Quote: HKR Smithy "If he didnt give a stuff then why wouldnt he walk away? Most rational people wouldnt pay such vast amounts of money into something they werent d about. No matter what anyone thinks of him, nobody can question his passion for Hull KR'"
I don't question his passion but at some point seeing no return on your investment must start to grate or even cause you to work on auto pilot. There has been plenty of time to put the required 'structures' in place, the fact they haven't is down to the coach and the board. It would be interesting to see if CS has hit any of his yearly targets, as set by the board, whilst at the club. That's supposing the board have set him targets, and that's open to debate. I bet if you asked Mike Smith what they are he will reply "that's between us and the coach" , which translates to "we haven't got a clue as to what targets a head coach should hit, or even what they could be". In most managerial positions you have yearly appraisal meetings with the boss where you are measured against the targets set at the last appraisal meeting, I just don't think this happens in Rugby League.
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| Quote: el red "I don't question his passion but at some point seeing no return on your investment must start to grate or even cause you to work on auto pilot. There has been plenty of time to put the required 'structures' in place, the fact they haven't is down to the coach and the board. It would be interesting to see if CS has hit any of his yearly targets, as set by the board, whilst at the club. That's supposing the board have set him targets, and that's open to debate. I bet if you asked Mike Smith what they are he will reply "that's between us and the coach" , which translates to "we haven't got a clue as to what targets a head coach should hit, or even what they could be". In most managerial positions you have yearly appraisal meetings with the boss where you are measured against the targets set at the last appraisal meeting, I just don't think this happens in Rugby League.'"
I see what you're getting at, especially with his recent vocal disillusion with the RFL. I would be very frustrated too at the moment, but I would react by getting rid of Sandy rather than looking at a new deal. He must have his reasons and I find it difficult to question whether NH is doing anything that's not in the best interests of the club. I would like to know what it's based on though.
With regards targets, surely he can't have met them with our league position and usual cup exit. The 'developing youth' argument might come into it but that's not a primary goal, and when the first team is below par it shouldn't be enough to save his backside.
Unfortunately we don't know what goes on behind the scenes at board level, or what is and isn't discussed between chairmen and coach. As supporters all we can really do is trust and hope that the outcome is a positive one for the club going forward even if we disagree with it at the time
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| So we beat a very poor Bradford side. That doesn't totally vindicate Sandy. Yes, we still had to beat them, and yes, the manner in which we beat them was also important. Thursday night is therefore important from a performance viewpoint, even if the result doesn't go our way.
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| Friday nights' game means nothing in my eyes when considering Sandercock's future. We have 10 games left. He needs a minimum of 6 wins to convince the doubters but I'm resigned to the fate of him being kept on.
Pass sales will be down hugely on the back of it though.
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| Quote: SirStan "Friday nights' game means nothing in my eyes when considering Sandercock's future. We have 10 games left. He needs a minimum of 6 wins to convince the doubters but I'm resigned to the fate of him being kept on.
Pass sales will be down hugely on the back of it though.'"
He has no chance of getting the 6 wins Stan but will he sign the contract hope for rovers sake no
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| Would pass sales really go down on the back of sandy signing a new deal? We the team is not performing well that's when we need to show support, not turn away. Hudge has steered us well so far so I'll trust his decision with the coach position. Does anyone really think that Chester, with no head coach experience, should be appointed? That would be a huge gamble. So if we go for an experienced head coach, who is available that would be interested? Kear, noble? Both huge backward steps.
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| There's always a chance and there have been some odd results this year wakey on Sunday for starters
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| Quote: SirStan "Friday nights' game means nothing in my eyes when considering Sandercock's future.'"
Being selective just gives you an unbalanced view.
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| Obviously doesn't matter to me whether he stays or goes but I look at Wakey and the length of time it took them to get rid of Agar (although allegedly it was his decision), and the position he left them in. Webbo takes over and its 2 wins from 2 (including yesterdays monster win). Could Chester have the same effect, and would it enthuse the fans a little more to know that NH does take account of how they feel.
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| What if it's Chester that's the weak link?
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| Quote: dum-dum "What if it's Chester that's the weak link?'"
Exactly. Not sure where the Chester for head coach thing comes from.
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| Quote: Wildmoose "Being selective just gives you an unbalanced view.'"
Not really, I just recognise a gash Bradford side when I see it. We have so far taken a grand total of 2 points off teams above us in the league.
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| Quote: SirStan "Not really, I just recognise a gash Bradford side when I see it. We have so far taken a grand total of 2 points off teams above us in the league.'"
Bulls were awful no doubt, but it doesn't change my point...& it's 3 points actually
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