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Quote: The Hollywood Frasier "Reece Lynn needs to get out '"

Agree with that bit 100%

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Quote: bishops finger "He's not a miracle worker.'"

lol.

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Quote: Mrs Barista "A bit odd that there's confidence Sandercock can improve Lyne. Gentle's not developed him, fair enough, but we have seen improvements in some players - Turner and Sharp for example. Bowden and Crooks have broken through. Houghton remains an England Knights pick and is a very effective hooker for us. On Sandercock's side, Taylor's stepped up, Hall has delivered the same mixed bag of the last umpteen years and your two closest prospects for international selection, Welham and Watts, have stepped back and stalled respectively. Are Sandercock and Chester so superior in developing players to Gentle and Hay that it's a given that all young players will come on leaps and bounds under them? Not convinced the evidence is unequivocal at this point tbh, but could well prove to be so.'"



The best example to use for Sandercock's proven development skills is Akila Uate.
Confidence shot a few years back and was not showing the promise that people knew he had, spends a bit of time under one on one tuition from Sandercock and comes back better than ever, eventually cementing his place in the NSW and Australia sides.
He has thanked Sandercock on numerous occasions for helping develop him into the player that he is.

Lyne is probably in a similar situation to Uate's, albeit without the same level of potential.

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Sorry, forgot my disclaimer, I do not actually believe though, that Lyne will ever make it in Super League no matter who coaches him.
I also don't want us to offer him a deal.

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Quote: EL CAMO "Sorry, forgot my disclaimer, I do not actually believe though, that Lyne will ever make it in Super League no matter who coaches him.
I also don't want us to offer him a deal.'"

Your not on your own bud.

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Quote: Mrs Barista "A bit odd that there's confidence Sandercock can improve Lyne. Gentle's not developed him, fair enough, but we have seen improvements in some players - Turner and Sharp for example. Bowden and Crooks have broken through. Houghton remains an England Knights pick and is a very effective hooker for us. On Sandercock's side, Taylor's stepped up, Hall has delivered the same mixed bag of the last umpteen years and your two closest prospects for international selection, Welham and Watts, have stepped back and stalled respectively. Are Sandercock and Chester so superior in developing players to Gentle and Hay that it's a given that all young players will come on leaps and bounds under them? Not convinced the evidence is unequivocal at this point tbh, but could well prove to be so.'"


Confidence from who?

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Quote: barton baird "Your not on your own bud.'"



His attitude seems all wrong to me.

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Quote: EL CAMO "The best example to use for Sandercock's proven development skills is Akila Uate.
Confidence shot a few years back and was not showing the promise that people knew he had, spends a bit of time under one on one tuition from Sandercock and comes back better than ever, eventually cementing his place in the NSW and Australia sides.
He has thanked Sandercock on numerous occasions for helping develop him into the player that he is.

Lyne is probably in a similar situation to Uate's, albeit without the same level of potential.'"


The most convenient and/or selective, you mean.

When a player is linked with Rovers, the typical reaction, as you intimate here (Pre disclaimer, well done icon_wink.gif ), if the player is an underwhelming prospect, is to prefix it with "with decent coaching, he could be good", the implication being that Sandercock has magical powers unpossessed by others.

Lists posted so far to support the elfin one's mystical staus appear a little selective IMO. Take Graeme Horne. Had an impressive season last year under Nathan Brown. Is he at the top of his game currently? Maybe he is, not entirely sure though. Scott Murrell - played some magnificent games under Morgan. Is this his career-best form? Watts, we've done. Wheeldon - Grand Finalist at Hull. Went south thereafter. Welham - plenty of bleating on here last year about Yeaman getting the England nod ahead of him, all gone a bit quiet on that front.. We all like to be optimistic about our coaching staff's abilities, but just posting stuff about Uate (yawn) and picking out players who have improved is a tad biased.

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With your crack pot bias in the other direction it probably even itself out.

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Quote: Mrs Barista "The most convenient and/or selective, you mean.

When a player is linked with Rovers, the typical reaction, as you intimate here (Pre disclaimer, well done
Well no I meant because he is most similar to Lyne in both position and deficiencies.

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Quote: Sandra The Terrorist "With your crack pot bias in the other direction it probably even itself out.'"

Perhaps so. Seeing as we're both stuck in the perpetual treacle of 7th/8th mediocrity we have to talk about something though. Ramekin's got the plastic fencing covered and you've no injuries to discuss. Sandercock v Gentle mud-wrestling is the only obvious topic.

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Quote: Mrs Barista "Perhaps so. Seeing as we're both stuck in the perpetual treacle of 7th/8th mediocrity we have to talk about ]something though]. Ramekin's got the plastic fencing covered and you've no injuries to discuss. Sandercock v Gentle mud-wrestling is the only obvious topic.'"



Yet we all hope you will talk about your "something" on your own board, your tedious and quite frankly extremely boring.
Your bias words and reverse psychology dont entertain anyone. Why shouldnt he use Uate as the best Example when hes talking about wingers with potential. Get a grip.

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Quote: Mrs Barista "The most convenient and/or selective, you mean.

When a player is linked with Rovers, the typical reaction, as you intimate here (Pre disclaimer, well done icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif Yeah, cos that's a tactic you'd never use is it?

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Quote: very red robin "Yet we all hope you will talk about your "something" on your own board, your tedious and quite frankly extremely boring.
Your bias words and reverse psychology dont entertain anyone. Why shouldnt he use Uate as the best Example when hes talking about wingers with potential. Get a grip.'"

I think you're a bit off the mark here. Had Hudgell brought Sandercock in specifically to develop young wingers, he'd not have brought in David Hodgson. I know Uate is a comfortable and well-worn, arguably over-used, example of his prowess, but it's not the be all and end all. I'm simply presenting a few examples of players currently under Sandercock's tutelage who've not yet followed that trajectory, Latus, for example, if you want to use a winger. The question was raised by a moderator about whether Sandercock could do something with Lyne. Just looking at some recent and relevant examples. Crikey.

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Hows gentle improving the likes of nicklas, ellis, burnett and jack briscoe.?

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