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einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result:



I thought Blair went ok today got to give him some slack as he carried the team last year I really don't rate Mulhearn we definitely need another big prop we haven't really got a kicking game and I can't understand why Moss was dropped

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Went ok for me. They tried to intimidate us a bit (how many high tackles). Kicking game remains poor.
The back rowers just seem to be used as foils but Greenwood was poor. Blair turned his ankle late on. Why isn't Blair's kicking game used out of our half. Abdul is good with the ball in hand but his kicking game is poor.
Scruton is turning out to be a good signing. Lunt, Donaldson, Mulhern, Hefernan, and Quinlan went well.
Kavanagh needs to speed his play the ball.

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Quote: fun time frankie "I thought Blair went ok today got to give him some slack as he carried the team last year I really don't rate Mulhearn we definitely need another big prop we haven't really got a kicking game and I can't understand why Moss was dropped'"


I thought the game turned when mulhearn came on for his first stint. He added much needed enthusiasm and go forward the was lacking up to that point.
Horne looked well off the pace for me.

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Quote: fun time frankie "I thought Blair went ok today got to give him some slack as he carried the team last year I really don't rate Mulhearn we definitely need another big prop we haven't really got a kicking game and I can't understand why Moss was dropped'"

Being in the North Stand, I kept mixing up Mulhern and Abdull in the second half when they were running towards us. Those bloody dyed blond haircuts are confusing. Goose needs to complain to the tonsorial standards police.

On the evidence of today and this season, I think you are being harsh on Mulhern, Frankie. He's improving all the time. True, he's no line breaker or offloader but he's enthusiastic with good defence and leg drive. Definitely worth a bench spot.

Sheens said post match that he as good as drew a straw today to rest either Moss or Shaw and Moss lost out. Part of his rotation strategy to get minutes into some players in the absence of a reserve comp allegedly. He won't send them out on loan either. Perhaps the aim was also to get starting minutes and game time into Cockayne to assess his suitability to start in future. Next week, he says Shaw will make way for Moss apparently. Reckon Quinlan could be rested to make way for Moss at FB in the CC game in a fortnight.

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Chishom was best half on field by a mile.abdull was poor try aside.ellis was ok Donaldson I like but is another iain morrison in that he is big heart but 2 stone and 6 inch short. His level is now . concerned by pack huffing and puffin first 20 min lazy or lack of respect for eagles? I think both..identikit forwards with little punch.2nd rowers playing prop and centres playing 2nd row.we will waltz this league but in honesty and I am as barmy as they come we will not trouble any superleague teams in playoffs.moss should play in front of cockayne as has real speed and presence. Horne is spent...need proper half .Clark back plus a junior moors type impact player.great crowd great history but I fear more pain on way at end of season..very hard to get out of this hellhole we are in

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Quote: fun time frankie "I thought Blair went ok today got to give him some slack as he carried the team last year I really don't rate Mulhearn we definitely need another big prop we haven't really got a kicking game and I can't understand why Moss was dropped'"


Think you're in the minority about Mulhern though.

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Quote: craig hkr "Chishom was best half on field by a mile.abdull was poor try aside.ellis was ok Donaldson I like but is another iain morrison in that he is big heart but 2 stone and 6 inch short. His level is now . concerned by pack huffing and puffin first 20 min lazy or lack of respect for eagles? I think both..identikit forwards with little punch.2nd rowers playing prop and centres playing 2nd row.we will waltz this league but in honesty and I am as barmy as they come we will not trouble any superleague teams in playoffs.moss should play in front of cockayne as has real speed and presence. Horne is spent...need proper half .Clark back plus a junior moors type impact player.great crowd great history but I fear more pain on way at end of season..very hard to get out of this hellhole we are in'"


You obviously see things very differently to TS. Reading your post I could easily become rather depressed.

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Hangover bad. ...Maybe was looking on the gloomy side but will have to wait to see who else comes in nearer playoffs.

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Quote: craig hkr "Hangover bad. ...Maybe was looking on the gloomy side but will have to wait to see who else comes in nearer playoffs.'"

The reality is we have 23 games to get things right so it's not really a worry how we're playing we seem to be improving every week it will be hard to put in an 80 minute performance when the games won after 15 mins like the Oldham game

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Quote: fun time frankie "The reality is we have 23 games to get things right so it's not really a worry how we're playing we seem to be improving every week it will be hard to put in an 80 minute performance when the games won after 15 mins like the Oldham game'"

Well said Frankie you hit it on the nail has long has we keep winning and we get some good players for the eights and they are good enough to get us out of the championship then everyone will be happy, we are also getting good gates has well wish other teams brought more fans icon_biggrin.gif

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I truly can't understand the pessimism on this thread. We are averaging 50 points a game at home, conceding on average less then 16 points a game and playing in some terrible conditions.

We don't actually need to get out of 2nd gear, and when the team needs to i.e in a reaction to a team getting at us we are blowing teams away.

The game is allowed to be slower at this level and we are most effective with quick play the balls, super league refs will allow for quicker play the balls and give us a chance to get a roll on.

No point in going 100% every single game and burning out come business end. We are clearly going to walk this league to may as well experiment and try different things while we can until things heat up and get exciting.

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Quote: mean_machine "I truly can't understand the pessimism on this thread. We are averaging 50 points a game at home, conceding on average less then 16 points a game and playing in some terrible conditions.

We don't actually need to get out of 2nd gear, and when the team needs to i.e in a reaction to a team getting at us we are blowing teams away.

The game is allowed to be slower at this level and we are most effective with quick play the balls, super league refs will allow for quicker play the balls and give us a chance to get a roll on.

No point in going 100% every single game and burning out come business end. We are clearly going to walk this league to may as well experiment and try different things while we can until things heat up and get exciting.'"



I agree to a point. My one worry is that we won't be tested until it really matters. At the moment when we are poor we are still more or less on top and when we look ok we're blowing teams away. I'm hoping that doesn't breed either complacency, instill bad habits or not show us were we really are. Not sure how we solve that issue as the next game could potentially be the biggest blow out yet.

I'm expecting Fev and Toulouse away to be bigger challenges but I think a decent cup run and a draw at a middle to low end SL team could be our best bet

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Sheens said post match that he as good as drew a straw today to rest either Moss or Shaw and Moss lost out. Part of his rotation strategy to get minutes into some players in the absence of a reserve comp allegedly. He won't send them out on loan either. Perhaps the aim was also to get starting minutes and game time into Cockayne to assess his suitability to start in future. Next week, he says Shaw will make way for Moss apparently. Reckon Quinlan could be rested to make way for Moss at FB in the CC game in a fortnight.'"


Sheens obviously rates Charlie as the best winger then, if he wasn't part of the coin toss?

Moss for Shaw makes sense, that right edge in the first half was breached twice.

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Quote: fun time frankie "

Can you add further why you really don't rate him? he is for me a very good runner of the ball, makes bags of yards, is very good in defence and makes a good impact off the bench, like someone previously said, he changed the tone of the game when coming off the bench against Sheffield.

if you can quote statistics to prove me wrong then I will stand corrected (said the man in the orthopedic shoes!)

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Quote: robinrovers10 "Can you add further why you really don't rate him? he is for me a very good runner of the ball, makes bags of yards, is very good in defence and makes a good impact off the bench, like someone previously said, he changed the tone of the game when coming off the bench against Sheffield.

if you can quote statistics to prove me wrong then I will stand corrected (said the man in the orthopedic shoes!)'"

Every time I watch him he seems to me to make no impact at all I seem to be in the minority on this so I'll take a good look at the next game

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