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| The truth is that Justin Morgan had one season as a head coach before coming to Rovers. Craig Sandercock had never been a head coach before arriving in East Hull and Chester has been learning from these two novices. It's about time that Neil Hudgell and Mike Smith brought in an experienced coach.
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| Quote: Faithful One "Yep. Had a nightmare. Still, not as if one poor match makes you a bad player. In 2015 he scored 21 tries, made 26 clean breaks, and 120 tackle busts in 23 appearances. He might make an error every now and again but you can't dispute the fact he had a good season attack wise. His defence may be a bit suspect, but that seems to be a squad wise issue.'"
If he was available I doubt any of the clubs who finished above rovers would sign him
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "If he was available I doubt any of the clubs who finished above rovers would sign him'"
What's that got to do with whether or not he should be playing for Rovers? I'd have him in over Cockayne every day of the week. Offers far more on the wing. Cockayne should have been filling in at hooker instead of Donaldson, IMO.
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| imo thought the Italy wing you have played well, he seemed to make more inroads than anybody,sio is class as is Kelly,you really need campese back but am not sure he will be,but you have only played 2 friendlys and lets see where your at after round 6
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| I said the day Chester was appointed he was the cheap option
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| Quote: Faithful One "What's that got to do with whether or not he should be playing for Rovers? I'd have him in over Cockayne every day of the week. Offers far more on the wing. Cockayne should have been filling in at hooker instead of Donaldson, IMO.'"
You were telling us how great he is and I was pointing out that he isn't
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| The worst thing is definitely the platitudes from the wrong side of The Chocolate Rivers Tributary.
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "You were telling us how great he is and I was pointing out that he isn't'"
Two dullers bickering on the Rovers forum. You couldn't make it up. Not really surprising seeing as one of them is you, Rolfie.
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| 1. would love to know the players thoughts on their coach.....
2. need game plan and set plays not just 'chucking the ball around'
3. need guidance (Campo)
4. need a coach with experience not someone who has not served an apprenticeship yet
5. need some goddam muscle up front - it aint rocket science
by answering my first question we could find some answers....
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "You were telling us how great he is and I was pointing out that he isn't'"
Okay. Thanks buddy
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| Quote: roversmad "Two dullers bickering on the Rovers forum. You couldn't make it up. Not really surprising seeing as one of them is you, Rolfie.'"
Apologies. Going to leave it at that I think. All the best for the season.
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| Quote: Faithful One "Apologies. Going to leave it at that I think. All the best for the season.'"
No need to apologise. He's the bell end. You seem ok (for a b&w anyway )
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| I watched Graeme Horne being interviewed today on Hull KR TV. Made skipper until Campo returns.
He appeared to let one huge admission slip, which if true is disappointing and shocking.
Until our dry bumming against the dark side, he stated that they relied on the same defensive combinations in training as last season due to the minimal changes in personnel.
It's not as if we were defensively invincible last season, eh.
Sh*t the bed. It appears we have only practised new defensive combinations and alignments since the Derby friendly drubbing. If that isn't coaching complacency, I don't know what is.
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| Quote: Pickering Red "I watched Graeme Horne being interviewed today on Hull KR TV. Made skipper until Campo returns.
He appeared to let one huge admission slip, which if true is disappointing and shocking.
Until our dry bumming against the dark side, he stated that they relied on the same defensive combinations in training as last season due to the minimal changes in personnel.
It's not as if we were defensively invincible last season, eh.
Sh*t the bed. It appears we have only practised new defensive combinations and alignments since the Derby friendly drubbing. If that isn't coaching complacency, I don't know what is.'"
The problem with last seasons defensive system and combos was the players weren't able to execute it in the absence of Campo who not only marshalled the attack but also the defence. Tyrone took the role over but his overall performance waned along with Rovers defence. Players like Campo are great communicators and looking at the possible 'spine' for Sunday I feel we need to see someone stand up and take the role by the scruff of the neck, but the question is who?
This is the possible 'spine' for Sunday:
FB: Charlie
HBs: Marsh & Kelly
Hookers: French John & Lawler
Loose: Clarkson
I am loathe to say this but I don't see any one of these taking on the role of defensive organiser. This then leaves the stand-in captain GH, who has spent more time lying on the ground around the PTB than in the defensive line (well it seemed like it).
Leadership is a real concern for me (in the absence of Campo and Lunt) and for sure Powell will exploit this and he has the spine to inflict a heavy defeat on Rovers.
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| Quote: Paul T - HKR "The problem with last seasons defensive system and combos was the players weren't able to execute it in the absence of Campo who not only marshalled the attack but also the defence.'" I think your main issue with defensive is that you seem to lack any 'wrestling' in the tackle and find it really hard to control the PTB speed the opposition get against you. I don't know if this is down to a lack of physicality in the middle or its something that is getting neglected.
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