Without it the team you support will get worse.

People get to carried away by it all, not every side can be top.

Gentle said exactly the same thing in his pre-match interview, didn't rub off on our players? Maybe Gentle is aware how much it means to the fans though?

I know that but even looking like ur bothered wud be a start and I don't want to be top just want consistency and that isn't happening

I would have thought saying it was a "fans thing" would tend to suggest Sandercock does too.

Your lack of passion last night and his obvious inability to motivate them in all 3 derbies this year would tend to suggest he doesn't.

No problem with motivation for the magic weekend derby. Sandercock has said about sending the fans home happy after that game, he said pre this game, its a fan thing therefore it seems clear he knows what it means to the supporters, which I believe was your original point.

Where to start? Jesus, I'll begin at the end.

In the car on the way home listening to the post-match interviews. The one that summed the entire night (season?) for me was listening to Richard Horne. He basically said that after getting a beasting at Catalans, Hull had spent all week training to get a 3rd man into the tackle and thus control the ruck. I think its fair to say that they took this onto the pitch with them. Defensive training appears to be an alien concept at Rovers this season.

Hull's defence was light years ahead of ours, and has been in all 3 games this year. In fact, as a contest, last night was even more one sided than Good Friday, without the scoreboard reflecting it. Hull bombed at least 3 more scores before half time.

On the back of such a solid defence, it was just a matter of time before we caved in. We were making 30-40 metres in a set, while Hull were going full length without any help from Silverwood (what was the penalty count? It felt like 2 to 1 in our favour). At 20-18, It felt like we were about to mug them again. The final 2 tries at least made the scoreboard reflect the game a little more. I'm not going to bang on about how poor some of our players looked, they were coached & picked by Mr Motivator and he's getting my backing until he's either failed or succeeded with his own team. Hull looked up for it, motivated, organized and quite frankly, much better than us. I shudder to think how much worse it could have been without their list of absentees (for 1 reason or another).

Gluton for punishment, I'm popping for my Widnes tickets at lunch. Keep the faith (yeah, right!).

I can see us only winning 3 more games this season. Will that be enough to get into the top 8? Doubtful, but then Shuddersfield are worse than us at the moment, so who knows?

(I'm trying to ignore Bradford at the moment, because on the field, they deserve their play-off place).

Losing, I can deal with. Losing without showing passion for 40 minutes is disheartening.

Missing two of our strike players in Hall and Welham last night had an impact. Sounds like Mika is injured (and maybe suspended anyway) and McDonell out for the rest of the season and gone.

We are still relying too much on Dobbo and Green. I can count on a single hand the number of times we offloaded in the tackle, and some of them went wrong. In my opinion, that is one of the main skill areas we're lacking in. But the lack of passion is the real killer at the moment.

Ah well, roll on next week and Widnes, at least that should get us back on track a little

2 of our worst defenders would hardly have made a difference in a side that missed more than 40 tackles.

There's not much to say that hasn't already been said TBH. Shocking performance, line speed none existent, no urgency to get up & PtB, completely bossed around by a patched up FC side. Not sure what the game plan was, but just trundling it up the middle was never going to work.
Thought Houghton was outstanding last night.

The magic weekend was a player response in the last 10 minutes, nothing to do with Sandercock, more to do with Ganson.
My original point was Gentle said the same thing, which he did. Rover49 claiming that was the reason for your lack of passion, didn't happen to ours. Maybe the reason is Gentle knows what it truly means to the fans, plausible.

Disappointing but no complaints.

We looked flat, similar to Good Friday. On the other hand, the one derby that fell during our one run of good form we won, so lack of passion maybe feels like an excuse. When we were in form we weren't a bad team, before and since we have been. Not unbearably or painfully so, just a bit lacklustre.
IMO, and I'm very far from being a coach, you do have to approach these games differently - it's true you don't want to get caught up in the hype, and it's just 2 points like any other, but if you want them you have to work a bit harder. On a brighter note, we've won both our post-derby games so far this year which rarely used to happen, so hopefully we'll turn up on at Widnes perform better.
Hull did some of the things well that they were doing in the early season and were good value for their win.

One discretion too many PAUL M, he needed to go, he was regularly bringing the club into disrepute and didn't seem able to help himself.

He is better than Latus, I don't want to bag the kid too much (he says, but is clearly just about to!) but he's just not good enough, no shame in that. He tries, he gives it a shot but if that's all you've got you at least need to be steady and reliable, which unfortunately he isn't. Every game he makes a couple of critical errors.

Dobson was not bad going forward once he decided to take the line on but was terrrible in defence. He might as well have given The Human Tatto a bunch of flowers and asked for his autograph in the first half.

Mainly Hull didn't allow Rovers to play and were clinical when the chances came, we had four clear line breaks and converted one.

Welham and Hall are suspect in defence but back up very well.

Houghton would be a joy to watch if he didn't kill us every game! Fabulous come back performance from him.

I said when Watts left that I hope he gets his head right, I just didn't want him to do it against us!

But far from convincing enough to have the desired effect.

missed watching the match last night on tv, how did laithwaite go