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| I think a few players necks should be on the blocks to go before Morgans,we all know of the few that are gonna be leaving and to be honest I think prob hudgell and Morgan have realised that spending the full cap on our team hasn't benefited us in any way, I think once webbo and Clinton go this season we won't fill them quota spots, the only ones I would keep is galea and Dobbo, green that's if Dobbo re signs although I feel he has been playing pretty poor of late, so maybe that's a sign of were his heart lies I don't know, to me green has been more instrumental this season.
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| Quote: gingerspice "I think a few players necks should be on the blocks to go before Morgans,we all know of the few that are gonna be leaving and to be honest I think prob hudgell and Morgan have realised that spending the full cap on our team hasn't benefited us in any way, I think once webbo and Clinton go this season we won't fill them quota spots, the only ones I would keep is galea and Dobbo, green that's if Dobbo re signs although I feel he has been playing pretty poor of late, so maybe that's a sign of were his heart lies I don't know, to me green has been more instrumental this season.'"
Why's that then??
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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "Why's that then??'"
Because they've been rubbish?
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| Quote: gingerspice "I think a few players necks should be on the blocks to go before Morgans,we all know of the few that are gonna be leaving and to be honest I think prob hudgell and Morgan have realised that spending the full cap on our team hasn't benefited us in any way, I think once webbo and Clinton go this season we won't fill them quota spots, the only ones I would keep is galea and Dobbo, green that's if Dobbo re signs although I feel he has been playing pretty poor of late, so maybe that's a sign of were his heart lies I don't know, to me green has been more instrumental this season.'"
Clinton has an option for another year, though I'd not be astonished if he didn't take it. Webster signed a new 2-year deal last summer, so I assume he'll still be here.
The big spend gave the team a big shot in the arm. The prevailing winds are changing, but a couple of tilts at the play-offs were 1. Fun and 2. Re-established HKR as a 'real' top-flight club.
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27608.jpg Motto of the week -
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| Quote: barham red "Because they've been rubbish?'"
Yet Morgan selects the team, the tactics and the game plan. He also recruited these 'rubbish' players.
The buck stops with the coach imo.
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| Quote: FC Wembley 08 "So why didn't you name a bar after it then??
I was not asked to.
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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "Yet Morgan selects the team, the tactics and the game plan. He also recruited these 'rubbish' players.
The buck stops with the coach imo.'"
Can't argue with any of that. There's only 1 player left at the club that was here when JM arrived, so the entire squad has been brought his with his blessing. He has a full support staff, all of which he brought in. The board back him to the hilt wages wise, so he is quickly running out of room to hide. His reluctance to drop certain players who are clearly out of form is a real problem, and a blind spot he doesn't appear willing to recognise. His tactics have bored me this season, and to a certain extent, last year as well.
The players have, at times appeared to lack motivation. Who is supposed to provide this? All questions lead to the same answer. I personally think, based on the limited interviews he does these days, that he's almost had enough, and is ready to go at the end of this year. As things stand, I'm really not bothered if he does.
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "Players are put out of work every season if things are not working for them at their club, Coaches are sacked/leave also if it is not working for them...
Nobby Noble one of the most decorated coaches in the country is out of work..
Your sentiments suggest all players/coaches should be kept by clubs even if things are not working out, how would that work then ?'"
They have a contract when it expires you either renew or not. It is the way most jobs are now including mine, but I would be a tad upset if some idiot who knows squat about my job started asking for me to be sacked.Sports man or shop worker, managing director or cleaner makes no diference, If the club signs a poor manager or player it is not the players fault,contracts of employment should be honoured.
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| Quote: gingerspice "I think a few players necks should be on the blocks to go before Morgans,'" Sorry I disagrre.
This is Morgans team (His players apart from one), It is his 1 man safety first rugby that is SOOO easy to counter, It is him that clearly has favourites that are undroppable and it his his defensice structure that i'snt good enough, Infact I could be wrong but even in 09 when we finished 4th our defense was far from great (Has it ever been top notch in SL?) so the buck stops at him.
As someone else has said he will struggle to find a place to hide as this team is his and no one elses.
My major worry is when stories appear (Taken with a pinch of salt) that the likes of Liam Watts has been told to go away and work on his meter making and to stop offloading (The best part if his game IMHO).
Tells you all you need to know if true.
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| Quote: Roverswall "Sorry I disagrre.
This is Morgans team (His players apart from one), It is his 1 man safety first rugby that is SOOO easy to counter, It is him that clearly has favourites that are undroppable and it his his defensice structure that i'snt good enough, Infact I could be wrong but even in 09 when we finished 4th our defense was far from great (Has it ever been top notch in SL?) so the buck stops at him.
As someone else has said he will struggle to find a place to hide as this team is his and no one elses.
My major worry is when stories appear (Taken with a pinch of salt) that the likes of Liam Watts has been told to go away and work on his meter making and to stop offloading (The best part if his game IMHO).
Tells you all you need to know if true.'"
Tbf, when we finished 4th we had the 4th lowest points against tally.
It's not his team selections that worry me so much. I can see there's a decent argument for Cook ahead of Netherton, for example, but realistically it wouldn't make a dramatic difference. Building pressure through a safety first approach with ball in hand, strong defence and good kick chase was successful but limited. Brown used it as a foundation at Hudds - we seemed content to rely almost solely on doing the basics well. And now we don't very often, so we're plop.
In mitigation... Mason would potentially, if it had worked out, have stiffened up our slightly flaccid pack. Our once excellent back three have to varying degrees lost their mojos. Dobson and Newton have been out for extended spells. It's one bad season - the important thing is that lessons are learned.
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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "Why's that then??'"
Cos sum of them have been garbage and if they don't wanna play for the club get rid I say
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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "Yet Morgan selects the team, the tactics and the game plan. He also recruited these 'rubbish' players.
The buck stops with the coach imo.'"
That's fair enuf but it's the players that arnt consistent week in week out, one week play good next week play poop is that Morgans fault to, he picked the same team who beat hull the week before so u tell me why it was Morgans fault we got thrashed by Leeds, he can talk to em tell em to stick to game plans if they divert away from that then that's not morgans fault is it.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "Tbf, when we finished 4th we had the 4th lowest points against tally.
It's not his team selections that worry me so much. I can see there's a decent argument for Cook ahead of Netherton, for example, but realistically it wouldn't make a dramatic difference. Building pressure through a safety first approach with ball in hand, strong defence and good kick chase was successful but limited. Brown used it as a foundation at Hudds - we seemed content to rely almost solely on doing the basics well. And now we don't very often, so we're plop.
I always seem to remeber that we defsivly looked in the wrong place.
Well if i'm wrong i'm wrong so i'll hold my hands up.
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