Its taken him long enough to realise something has to change!!!!

I don't think 2009 was a case of overachieving or a fluke. Over the course of a season the results don't lie. We had a really good 27-round season but then ran out of steam in the play-offs. Other teams might have been disappointed to finish behind us, but they did - because Rovers were better than them.

However the flipside of that is that our current travails are not just down to bad luck - just as we were quite good back then, we're now quite poor.

So what went wrong? There is tendency amongst sports fans to bounce between the extremes of seeing their team as brilliant or poop. And it only takes a few extra errors, dips in performance etc to move you to the other side of the fulcrum. The fulcrum itself moves over time reflecting what is a par score for the relative quality of your team. In 2009 we were on the upswing, now we've hit the down cycle, IMO. It was unlikely ever to be a direct and triumphal march to ever greater success. Some Hull fans thought similarly in the middle of the last decade and we've maybe fallen in to the same trap. The trick is to halt and reverse the trend - whether with drastic action or a firm hand on the tiller. IMO the latter looks the better bet.

Most cliches - EVER!

You've had injuries to key players. In the past you've had very good continuity in your halves which determine the team's personality whereas this season it's been more difficult. You haven't had your best forward, Newton, available for much of the time. The off field stuff can't have helped either. Your back three has also been affected with injury and just basically loss of form (Fox in particular). These things in combination conspire against you, particularly when squad depth in terms of quality isn't that deep.

I will take your lack of a responce to mean that I am correct and you can indeed not find another player like this at a top club.

You don't seem able to supply me with a name either.
How very strange.
Maybe he Isn't as 'needed' as it is made out after all.
That being the case I would class Jason Netherton (Nothing personal Jason mate honest) as a classic example of the kind of player that his holding us back.
Makes you wonder.
Strangely enough I asked a similar question on the 'other' board and I was greeted with the same wall of silence on there as well!!

Korkidis at Wakey, he's rubbish.

Edit; Actually, just had a look at his stats. He's miles better than Netherton! The hunt continues!

Nope, just had a very quick trawl through the squads and stats and all I've concluded is that Netherton has better hair than Karl "Cheese N" Temata and has missed nearly three times as many tackles as Ewan "Rubbish" Dowes.

Actually Roverswall I sleep through the day, work at night and had a very busy Thursday night so was unable to reply!

I would probably say Ian Kirke is a similar player that plays for a top team regularly. Last season they played almost as many games as each other and their stats are VERY similar.

Kudos to me I think!

Are you a prostitute?



Is this the same Ian Kirke that Leeds fans constantly deride and pretty all to a fan have absolutely no idea how he gets in the team or what the point of him is? That Ian Kirke?



In that you've found a player as ineffectual as Netherton? Well done.

Was asked to find a player at a top club that gets in the team every week and is like Netherton! Also Kirke has had at least 3 coaches who have all constantly picked him, there is a reason the Leeds fans are stood on the terraces and work for an average of about 20k a year compared to those three coaches that were or are earning at least five times that much!!!!

Us Monday morning coaches are writing on message boards for a reason!

Very true. I'd be an awful coach, I'd be wanting to score eighty metre tries off every play.