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30596_1286642206.jpg If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
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| He isn't called "The Sleeve" for nothing.
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33934.gif BLACK AND WHITES
East is East,West is West,
and never the twain shall meet.
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"I" said the sparrow "With my bow and arrow.":33934.gif |
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| This is like some sort of Spanish Inquisition.
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17123_1311448581.jpg If you only knew the POWER of the dark side.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_17123.jpg |
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| A thought has struck me. Isn't Ian L who is the owner of Wigan also the former owner of London?
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30596_1286642206.jpg If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
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| Yep, and rumours abound that the bloke who "owns" London now is still bank rolled by Lenagan, something to do with Sports Café or whatever it's called.
The above is more than likely completely wrong.
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| I only mention it because as much as Leeds name being missing was an eyebrow raising moment so was London on that list. That is until you remember the connection above.
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| MMM hard one to call, for one i`d like to see the rfl ousted as they have showed that they cannot be impartial when it comes to certain teams... If this does cause a split from rfl then will they drop the sc and quota sys so that they can operate as is and with whatever players they bring in...can see some teams going down the nal route if they do ie all foreignors..... lots of ifs and maybes i know...but i`m sure it will cross a few peoples minds.... back to the wigan winning everything days of the 90`s
as for leeds being missing off that list....that didn`t surprise me one little bit...
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"I've been rich & I've been poor. Rich is better." DLR: |
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| More about this on the Wigan board. Sounds like Ian Lenagan sees the Hetheringtons as a major part of the problem.
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| it would also explain the positioning of Kath on the wakey board as well..ie two votes so to speak.
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| I'm not sure he has.
He has gone out of his way to say how good Brian Barwick is but fails to mention anyone else in the RFL that to me is telling.
He has avoided saying he likes the 12-12 8-8-8 outright, He has avoided saying he want's 12 teams in SL over 10 or 14 all he is saying is that everyone agreed that change was needed (Everyone is still in agreement over this IMHO) and that it will be sorted post world cup.
I would say he gives away the real issues in the disagreement in his last paragraph.
"There may be some areas of corporate governance and representation which need to be separately addressed and improved (from the current system which, ironically, was enthusiastically constructed and endorsed by Super League Clubs only five years ago) and I have no doubt that these can be rationally and sensibly resolved."
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| So the NRC has been cut due to a lack of a sponsor (Lets not kid ourselves here no matter what BS the RFL come up with).
I do wonder if the rebels knew and then though 'Hang on you want more of our money when you cannot even maintain or acquire sponsorship of the NRC?'
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Rovers (along with five other clubs) walked out on a meeting of SLE that was to discuss re-structuring.
www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/29 ... -statement
In principle, I'm not at all keen on conflating the issues of competition format and commercial revenues.
But maybe it makes sense politically. Not immediately clear what we're after though. Better commercial management is an obvious answer, but unless we think cutting to 12 will damage chances of that or better management requires new management/governance, it could (imo should) be dealt with seperately. Maybe the real issue is the format (or some aspects of it, possibly varying from rebel club to rebel club) and the rebels need to create a procedural roadblock, in the hope of... I'm really not sure what.
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Rovers (along with five other clubs) walked out on a meeting of SLE that was to discuss re-structuring.
www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/29 ... -statement
In principle, I'm not at all keen on conflating the issues of competition format and commercial revenues.
But maybe it makes sense politically. Not immediately clear what we're after though. Better commercial management is an obvious answer, but unless we think cutting to 12 will damage chances of that or better management requires new management/governance, it could (imo should) be dealt with seperately. Maybe the real issue is the format (or some aspects of it, possibly varying from rebel club to rebel club) and the rebels need to create a procedural roadblock, in the hope of... I'm really not sure what.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "Rovers (along with five other clubs) walked out on a meeting of SLE that was to discuss re-structuring.
Apart from our delightful neighbours we were in good company when we walked out.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "Rovers (along with five other clubs) walked out on a meeting of SLE that was to discuss re-structuring.
If it's over a reduction in funds I cannot see Salford, Cas, London, Bradford or Widnes going for that.
So either we have turkey's actually voting for Christmas or it's over something else. My guess would be the governance of the RFL.
Like I have said on the VT I get the feeling GH want's the top job at the RFL so won't want to rock boats. If that is the case you can count out Leeds and Wakey straight away.
Do Cas, Bradford, Salford, London or Widnes want to make foes at the RFL? I doubt it.
That leaves Saints as the only team I can't figure out but let us not forget they were against it so I await their responce with interest.
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47753_1430033772.jpg JOHN THE REDBOY I have been a rovers fan all my life and my grandkids are as well:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47753.jpg |
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| Quote: Anakin Skywalker "I can't see it being over the 12 team reduction otherwise I fail to understand why the clubs are the one's likely NOT to be involved.
If it's over a reduction in funds I cannot see Salford, Cas, London, Bradford or Widnes going for that.
So either we have turkey's actually voting for Christmas or it's over something else. My guess would be the governance of the RFL.
Like I have said on the VT I get the feeling GH want's the top job at the RFL so won't want to rock boats. If that is the case you can count out Leeds and Wakey straight away.
Do Cas, Bradford, Salford, London or Widnes want to make foes at the RFL? I doubt it.
That leaves Saints as the only team I can't figure out but let us not forget they were against it so I await their responce with interest.'"
Saints, might it not be because the Wigan chairman is behind it you know how much they love Wigan
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