Great piece of work Sandy

FWIW, Mr Thaler disallowed 4 Widnes tries today, so he's not exactly our cup of tea either. To be fair though, he was probably right on most of them. Great game today though, and your boys came back really well in the second half. Good luck in the play-offs

Thank you I have often thought the same but did not know how to gather the information that would give me the stats that you have shown. I just said to her indoors another game that we have lost under Thaler. I said it a couple weeks ago he has had a downer on us ever since Justin Morgan slagged him off and got fined for it, it would be interesting to know how many losses have been under him since then.

This is all well and good but, does Thaler miss tackles, drop balls, off load in ridiculous situations (yes Mr Mika, I mean you)etc.....

A strange thing I have noticed is that when Rovers get well outplayed by the opposition as we were today many of our fans refer to us being beaten by 'a poor Widnes side' or a 'poor Bradford side' or whoever it was on the day.

This is complete .

For at least 60 minutes today Widnes were excellent OK some handling mistakes but for a side who have leaked so many points a very good and aggressive defensive performance whilst always looking like you might score.

At 3/4 time and for no obvious reason the game suddenly morphed into an end of season you score we score.

Thank you for your generous comments it is much appreciated. Thaler really is a ref we have never enjoyed but even he couldn't disguise that Widnes were very deserving winners today.

Sorry but those stats, as with most statistics, tell much less than the full story.

You could only see "evidence" of pattern if the OP produced similar stats for ALL other SL clubs. Then he'd need to add weighting factors for home/away, position in table at time of game, weather etc

This statistics lark isn't simply a question of addition and division

I wasn't specifically setting out to prove anything other then my hunch that rovers always seem to lose when Thaler is the ref, and we do. Now I know that there are several other factors to take into account not just who's in charge and if I was going to produce something more in depth then I would look at the other teams too.

However, from what I have produced I can safely say that 76% of the time Ben Thaler is in charge, we don't win the match. And that's all I wanted to look at

Proper stats would be a one-tailed two sample t test for percent/proportion or something like that. You wouldn't need to correct for those weighting factors, IMO, as there is no reason to assume Thaler's sample would be unusual - sample size would determine the power of the test.
I doubt it is statistically significant, and even if it were it won't be highly significant, so far from definitive. Might check later.
Does confirm that our record under Thaler is rubbish, for whatever reason. I thought we tended to do well under Bentham, but was clearly wrong about that.

Refs against rovers, injury problems blah blah blah

Imitation as flattery, yada, yada, yada.

8th is what we've got and 8th is what we deserve. Injuries are part of the sport and it is a squad game - I think the injuries we've had this year and last could be used in mitigation, when comparing CS to Morgan, but that's all. It's given players like Salter and Cox more opportunities, which helps squad depth.

Sandercock does lay it on with a trowel - creating realism to the point of despondency, sometimes. But there's no good image after a loss - I've seen Gentle's laid back, affable persona criticisized as too nice when Hull have lost.

On the refs - why we do so well under Hicks is in some ways as legitimate a question as why we do so poorly under Thaler. Though it is not quite so far from the overall W/L ratio and is a smaller number of games. But how often do fans 'credit' their team winning to a ref - they only ever get blame.
Just one of those things, I assume.

Historically Thaler was very anti Rovers, leading to the submission of a formal complaint to the RL over remarks he allegedly made, the outcome of which was never offically released.
However, since this complaint there has been a marked improvement, although most 50/50's go against you. Yesterday I thought he gave a reasonable performance and was not a major factor in the defeat.

Think I might do that next, look at the opposition, whether it was a home/away game etc but specifically look at Thalers figures

i`m sorry, but they know the guy has a chip on his shoulder for rovers , so they(kr) should do better to counteract that flaw and don`t give him a reason to penalise.... It`s the only way to beat a bias ref...

Priceless