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ERM I think we have got both in Neil, and also rob what are you on about we have the best of both worlds have we not
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Beumont and Carlisle gone to Saints
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'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_33809.png |
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One thing i've come to terms with is that there is no sustainable business model for Hull KR, for the simple reason that our competitors are either bigger than us (eg Wigan or Leeds) or happy/willing to run at a loss (most of the rest).
Now, if the choice is do we want to be treated like fans or customers, I'd lean towards fans, but you don't want to go too far either way. You have to make the 'product' enticing, because relying solely on loyalty won't work. But if you go too brushed steel, shiny plastic and aloof people will eventually stop caring.
With hindsight NH might have over done the honesty and spooked people (fans, players, sponsors etc), but at least we know. If he'd gone for massive possitivity and then had to stick us in adminstration, that'd not have been a good look at all.
I'm not sure where we'll end up. Some indications that we're fine for 2014, but as yet not much further: Sandercock's 1-year deal, NH staying on as chairman for 2014, no retention or recruitment yet, this article...
www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Rescue-d ... story.html
But as I say, I've come to terms with it. Teetering on the edge is how most clubs operate, and when you fall death is often only temporary. |
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One thing i've come to terms with is that there is no sustainable business model for Hull KR, for the simple reason that our competitors are either bigger than us (eg Wigan or Leeds) or happy/willing to run at a loss (most of the rest).
Now, if the choice is do we want to be treated like fans or customers, I'd lean towards fans, but you don't want to go too far either way. You have to make the 'product' enticing, because relying solely on loyalty won't work. But if you go too brushed steel, shiny plastic and aloof people will eventually stop caring.
With hindsight NH might have over done the honesty and spooked people (fans, players, sponsors etc), but at least we know. If he'd gone for massive possitivity and then had to stick us in adminstration, that'd not have been a good look at all.
I'm not sure where we'll end up. Some indications that we're fine for 2014, but as yet not much further: Sandercock's 1-year deal, NH staying on as chairman for 2014, no retention or recruitment yet, this article...
www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Rescue-d ... story.html
But as I say, I've come to terms with it. Teetering on the edge is how most clubs operate, and when you fall death is often only temporary. | |
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| Quote: Mild Rover "One thing i've come to terms with is that there is no sustainable business model for Hull KR, for the simple reason that our competitors are either bigger than us (eg Wigan or Leeds) or happy/willing to run at a loss (most of the rest).
Now, if the choice is do we want to be treated like fans or customers, I'd lean towards fans, but you don't want to go too far either way. You have to make the 'product' enticing, because relying solely on loyalty won't work. But if you go too brushed steel, shiny plastic and aloof people will eventually stop caring.
With hindsight NH might have over done the honesty and spooked people (fans, players, sponsors etc), but at least we know. If he'd gone for massive possitivity and then had to stick us in adminstration, that'd not have been a good look at all.
I'm not sure where we'll end up. Some indications that we're fine for 2014, but as yet not much further Sandercock's 1-year deal, NH staying on as chairman for 2014, no retention or recruitment yet, this article...
In his interview on Hull KR TV he said investment for 2014 and beyond
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| Quote: Aldy "In his interview on Hull KR TV he said investment for 2014 and beyond'"
Yes he did and he also talked about starting with a clean slate regarding the debt - there are more positive indications too. We'll get a firmer idea soon, I guess. At worst it sounds like we'll be alright-ish in the short term and that is all that can be said of most SL clubs - we're just more conscious of it because of our chairman and our local rivals. In some ways that is a good thing  |
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As stated earlier we have both in Neil Hudgell.
I cannot help look at lost oppurtunities for raising income thougth, match days are a prime example.Approximatley 7000 people are at CP for the game and during the game the catering facilities for them are minimal.The bars in the ground before and after are too say the least basic, I know many people who would stay on at the ground after games for a meal or a show but we loose this possible income.
People love to gamble a row of one arm bandits would be an income puller, a club cannot survive on the match day takings alone we need the ground to be a social meeting point on days when no games are going on
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I didnt realise carlile and beaumont had been confirmed
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| Quote: BridHKR "I didnt realise carlile and beaumont had been confirmed'"
I'm sure Keal Carlisle's sponsor was quoted as saying it wasn't true |
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JOHN THE REDBOY I have been a rovers fan all my life and my grandkids are as well:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47753.jpg |
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| Quote: peteron58 "As stated earlier we have both in Neil Hudgell.
I cannot help look at lost oppurtunities for raising income thougth, match days are a prime example.Approximatley 7000 people are at CP for the game and during the game the catering facilities for them are minimal.The bars in the ground before and after are too say the least basic, I know many people who would stay on at the ground after games for a meal or a show but we loose this possible income.
People love to gamble a row of one arm bandits would be an income puller, a club cannot survive on the match day takings alone we need the ground to be a social meeting point on days when no games are going on'"
This is true what I can not understand why the clubs in this country don't, back in 1992 I went to aus and was stopping in penrith for the GB tour,and the penrith club has loads of one arm bandits and golf simulators and cinema and pony trapping all of this brings in good money and loads of eating places we are so far behind it is no wonder we can not compete with them |
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einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result: |
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| Quote: cravenpark1 "This is true what I can not understand why the clubs in this country don't, back in 1992 I went to aus and was stopping in penrith for the GB tour,and the penrith club has loads of one arm bandits and golf simulators and cinema and pony trapping all of this brings in good money and loads of eating places we are so far behind it is no wonder we can not compete with them'"
I think Penrith have something like 80 thousand members mainly playing in the casino it must generate a fortune |
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[quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
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The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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And Australia has massive gambling problems, go figure.
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einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result: |
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Will power nobody forces them to gamble
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| Quote: fun time frankie "Will power nobody forces them to gamble'"
Quite true. Its like you watching Rovers and me watching Hull. We can't help ourselves. |
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| The only thing wrong with Hudgell is when he lets emotions get the better of himself in post match interviews on Humberside. Speaking as an FC fan you're very lucky to have a chairman who is willing to back you like he does. The fact he is a fan has undoubtedly meant you have been able to keep your heads above water. Fair play to him (begrudgingly of course  ) |
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Of course NH is a fan first and money man second.His love of Rovers cannot be questioned and his passion is to be admired. You have to admire a fan whos is willing to put his money in year in with no hint of a return on his investment
And would you not show emotion on occassions when you had invested so much in a team or a player who lets you down or a impassioned plea for good standards of officialdom both on and off the pitch?
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