Well i know given the choice which one id try my luck being on the end of.

Supposes they both can be lethal if your being held down though

Here is a question, in our daily place of work if we were convicted of this crime would we be still employed ?

But you don't work anymore Mr Plummer. You were put out on gardening leave remember.

Cockayne is scum he beat up someone who was defenseless

you are an idiot

Here is a question Half Full, are you suggesting that all people convicted of this sort of crime should be sacked and never employed again by anyone? and for your info i work in a very large international industry and i know for a fact that my employer don't not sack people for indiscretions outside of their working hours, they accept the findings and punishments dealt out by the courts,wether they agree with it or not, not by the ramblings and opinions of an internet kangaroo court, which i must add is not wholey based on unbias opinions, thats why anyone with rugby connections would not have been allowed on the jury.

Were did i say that . You are mostly defensive of this act of violence i leave you to it .

So one can sack them then someone else employ them...whats the point in that?

I can see you have read my posts .

Well then you think wrong.

The actions of cockayne are undefensable and yes something has to be done about it but why start here, why not start with pryce, why didn't we start with raynor, the same could be said about why didn't they start with fc and ban them from the cc, because no definative rules are in place. Untill guide lines are in place, ie what constitutes bans or life bans, drink driving, ones teams player attacking another teams player in a pub, throwing things from hotel room windows or whatever. Yes i feel further punishment should come cockaynes way but unlike hull and raynor i bet it will not be allowed to be kept behind closed doors.

I posted the above and I wish to apologise to Hull SL fans for saying it. I have since read that apart from Crocker being found guilty of affray he has a shocking disciplinary record and he told the Sydney papers he could not hack more than a season in the NRL before agreeing a deal will Hull SL for three years! Apart from that and the fact he is 29 years old he should be a first class acquisition, well if you forget that he has not one but two shoulder reconstructions! He sounds as if he would fit it just fine, get on the phone pronto James and sort out his visa! .