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| Quote Kingmaker="Kingmaker"Its not a case of either being 'no good', it's more that perhaps they haven't taken the opportunity to step up that a contract and regular training with the first team has given them. Maybe the forced rules regarding homegrown players as you suggest, mean that some will be given contracts when otherwise they might have missed out.
[uI stand by my original point though that it's terribly naive of those who say 'we should just play Mariano'[/u. Especially when you take into consideration the next two fixtures.
The likes of Welham, Watts, Latus & Taylor prove that Morgan [iwill[/i give youngsters a chance if he thinks they're good enough. If he opts to bring in a loan player ahead of Mariano, I think it's a good indication that he doesn't believe the player is up to the level required.
It's not 'poor' of him at all. Poor would be to drop a player in at the deep end, have him absolutely annihilated for 80 minutes and cost us the game. All the time knowing he wasn't good enough in the first place.'"
I stand by my point also.
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| Quote Mild Rover="Mild Rover":P
[fit of piqueFirst my ingenious French punning is ignored and now my metaphor is mocked.[/fit of pique'"
I wasn't ignoring it, I just didn't get it. I did French A level, and got an A grade, but that was a [ivery[/i long time ago. |
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| Quote Mrs Barista="Mrs Barista"I wasn't ignoring it, I just didn't get it. I did French A level, and got an A grade, but that was a [ivery[/i long time ago.'"
s'awright.
Quote Mrs Barista="Everybody" Charnley.'"
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| Quote Mild Rover="Mild Rover"s'awright.
Done pretty well (posted at HT). Looks to have lots potential - albeit for Wigan.'"
Brilliant first half from Rovers - the definition of momentum at the right time of the season. Not looking forward to next week.  |
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I think eddie was stroking himself under the desk every time charnley touched the ball
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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"I think eddie was stroking himself under the desk every time charnley touched the ball'"
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So how did he do? Is it right he played centre?
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| Quote Famous Amos="Famous Amos"So how did he do? Is it right he played centre?'"
Yeah, right centre. He was bloody fantastic! You've got a future GB centre on your hands if you keep him playing like that. |
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Still don't get it. Are we saying KR didn't have ANY young player who could have done what Charnley did tonight? If that is the case, what does that say about the state of coaching and scouting for the 18s and 20s? The whole idea of the 3 year franchise was, amongst other things, to allow clubs to develop THEIR OWN YOUNGSTERS, (not others).
If you are a good local player aged 15/16 and get offers from KR, Castleford, Wakefield etc. what are you going to think, "if I go for KR, I might get near the 1st team squad, that is until they see a another 'super league' ready player somewhere else!" I think previous blogs about making the numbers up for the 8 home grown player rules is spot on for Frankie Mariano etc. Short term wins are fine. but JM and his coaching staff won't be here in 5 years time. Other clubs seem to be always announcing 3,4 or 5 17 or 18 year olds signing for the 1st team squad and training full time each year, when did that last happen?
KR in danger of being a feeder club for the likes of Wigan, just as Hull are for Leeds. The next franchise app will look at how good the recruitment has been over the last 3 years, and, having to 'hire in' other academy players can't be good.
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| Quote HKRKid="HKRKid"Yeah, right centre. He was bloody fantastic! You've got a future GB centre on your hands if you keep him playing like that.'"
Good to see he did well but he is really a winger, not a centre. I am quite surprised you signed him if you needed a centre. |
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| Quote JohnSmith2602="JohnSmith2602"Still don't get it. Are we saying KR didn't have ANY young player who could have done what Charnley did tonight? If that is the case, what does that say about the state of coaching and scouting for the 18s and 20s? The whole idea of the 3 year franchise was, amongst other things, to allow clubs to develop THEIR OWN YOUNGSTERS, (not others).
If you are a good local player aged 15/16 and get offers from KR, Castleford, Wakefield etc. what are you going to think, "if I go for KR, I might get near the 1st team squad, that is until they see a another 'super league' ready player somewhere else!" I think previous blogs about making the numbers up for the 8 home grown player rules is spot on for Frankie Mariano etc. Short term wins are fine. but JM and his coaching staff won't be here in 5 years time. Other clubs seem to be always announcing 3,4 or 5 17 or 18 year olds signing for the 1st team squad and training full time each year, when did that last happen?
KR in danger of being a feeder club for the likes of Wigan, just as Hull are for Leeds. The next franchise app will look at how good the recruitment has been over the last 3 years, and, having to 'hire in' other academy players can't be good.'"
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