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| Quote: R.B.A "Did you really just type that last paragraph? ![]()
Yes. Results aren't always down to the players! 
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| Quote: Big Dave T "Yes. Results aren't always down to the players! ![]()
TBF i think you have a point.
DDD always seems to blame the ref 
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| Quote: Big Dave T "I'd have thought common sense would tell you that players aren't always released because as individuals they aren't good enough, there are a variety of reasons why players are released. Off field issues, clashes with coaching staff, needing a new challenge etc. A hell of a lot of players at the bottom 3 clubs would do jobs higher up in the leagues playing in different teams with different coaches in my opinion.
Also, the bottom 3 teams in the SL table aren't always the worst 3 teams in the league. Only on results. (but that doesnt mean their players are always worse)'"
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| Quote: Big Dave T "I prefer to blame the coach and our tactics. (notice ive not blamed injuries or refs!!) ![]()
Its easy to blame the coach
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| Quote: Big Dave T "I prefer to blame the coach and our tactics. (notice ive not blamed injuries or refs!!) ![]()
It's not a reflection of each individuals ability but it's safe I think it's safe to say there's not 75 top quality players in the squads of the bottom 3
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| Quote: j_hunter_hkr "
So another one then that thinks players from bottom 3 clubs are all obviously lacking in ability and none of them are good enough to make it for a top 3 or 4 club.
Do you honestly not get that clubs performances are not always reflective of players ability and performances?
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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "Its easy to blame the coach ![]()
It is when he's tripe like ours.
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| Quote: MrPhilb "It's not a reflection of each individuals ability but it's safe I think it's safe to say there's not 75 top quality players in the squads of the bottom 3 ![]()
I didnt say all of the players did i? I agree that lots wouldnt be good enough. But at the same time only a fool would write all 75 off like RBA has done?
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| Quote: Sheldon "that would be unfair to the lad, this way if another club wants him he can go without the other club worrying, especially if their skint, about a fee.'"
Was talking to a relative of his and while we have given him more money, its not a lot more and the main reason he came was he was disallusioned with the coaching at KC and feels his career as a player is best served at HKR. He had the chance of another club as well (did not say who) |
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| Quote: rover49 "Was talking to a relative of his and while we have given him more money, its not a lot more and the main reason he came was he was disallusioned with the coaching at KC and feels his career as a player is best served at HKR. He had the chance of another club as well (did not say who)'"
Dont blame him, we should never have tried to make him a back rower. |
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| Quote: Big Dave T "So another one then that thinks players from bottom 3 clubs are all obviously lacking in ability and none of them are good enough to make it for a top 3 or 4 club.
Do you honestly not get that clubs performances are not always reflective of players ability and performances?'"
Read your original post.
"Also, the bottom 3 teams in the SL table aren't always the worst 3 teams in the league. Only on results."
That's garbage. Your point about [iindividuals[/i is perfectly fine and I agree, but the 3 worst teams do finish in the bottom 3. That's how league tables work. |
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| Quote: j_hunter_hkr "Read your original post.
"Also, the bottom 3 teams in the SL table aren't always the worst 3 teams in the league. Only on results."
That's garbage. Your point about [iindividuals[/i is perfectly fine and I agree, but the 3 worst teams do finish in the bottom 3. That's how league tables work.'"
Incorrect. The 3 teams that pick up the least points always finish in the bottom 3. There are varying dependencies that mean they arent always the worst teams. (unless the only thing that matters is picking up the 2 points which imo it most definately isnt) |
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| Quote: Big Dave T "Incorrect. The 3 teams that pick up the least points always finish in the bottom 3. There are varying dependencies that mean they arent always the worst teams. (unless the only thing that matters is picking up the 2 points which imo it most definately isnt)'"
So when we had the first past the post system are you telling us the best team didn't win the league every season? |
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| Quote: rover49 "Was talking to a relative of his and while we have given him more money, its not a lot more and the main reason he came was he was disallusioned with the coaching at KC and feels his career as a player is best served at HKR. He had the chance of another club as well (did not say who)'"
its fair enough bud, he should have never been moved from hooker.
i am actually glad we didn't offer him a equal or greater deal if he can get sl rugby its better than playing reserves. the potential fee could have put other clubs off. |
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