| FORUMS > Hull KR > Ben cockayne - *All discussion here please |
 |
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 1999 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Aug 2008 | 16 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jun 2011 | Jun 2011 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: WormInHand "icon_confused.gif:
You seem to be insinuating that your club did indeed realise what they were dealing with.
If so, then yes, no signing should have taken place and yes, indeed, this whole show of "meetings" and "discussions" are irrelevant.
So ARE you making the assertion that Rovers knew all? ![]()
All I'm saying is that you're wrong in what you've stated, like Kath H, I don't have to comment any further.
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 75 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Mar 2009 | 16 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Apr 2010 | Apr 2010 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
Look i think most of us agree the RFL has got to set a bench mark here, and start imposing bans for such things, it was on tv for gods sake it does so much damage to our game we have to be seen to be dealing with it .
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Board Member | 7779 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| May 2003 | 22 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Sep 2019 | Sep 2019 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: WormInHand "But surely you realise that neither Cas or Rovers knew the full extent of the seriousness of the violence two years ago?
All they knew is that an assault had taken place and the pair had pleaded guilty.
The full extent of the atrocious nature of the violence has only come to light during the trial, thanks in part to the CCTV footage only recently revealed.
Rovers or Cas cannot be blamed for signing the players "with this hanging over them". What they are accountable for is how they deal with the situation now it's enormity is revealed.
Cas have sacked their second rate player. As I have stated previously, Rovers are in a slightly more tricky situation as if they sack the thug, someone else will have him. The RFL MUST act to ensure no club have that option.
The fact that the thug has shown no remorse and instead has blamed his actions on a "flashback" to the time he served in Iraq (doing what, exactly?) should only make this easier for them.'"
Thats my point, If these 2 players were in Australia, Both would be sacked and banned from playing in the league, The RFL should do the same IMO |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 5659 |  |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Mar 2007 | 18 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Aug 2024 | Feb 2023 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: CHURCHILL "All I'm saying is that you're wrong in what you've stated, like Kath H, I don't have to comment any further.'"
I'm on Rovers' side on this one - I'm guessing they were ignorant of the seriousness of the offence.
If I'm wrong, then fine - but how do Rovers justify their signing of the thug if they were fully aware of the situation?
Your comments, Churchill, are intriguing. Were the RFL aware that Rovers were aware?? 
And now you have shed new light on this - SHOULD they be aware? Perhaps you need to drop the RFL an e-mail. In the interest of justice, of course  |
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 13190 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Mar 2007 | 18 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Feb 2020 | Oct 2019 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Half Full "Look i think most of us agree the RFL has got to set a bench mark here, and start imposing bans for such things, it was on tv for gods sake it does so much damage to our game we have to be seen to be dealing with it .'"
Oh well, lets hang him shall we, its ok for him to batter someone but please don't get caught on telly  |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 1999 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Aug 2008 | 16 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jun 2011 | Jun 2011 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 29797 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jul 2005 | 19 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: WormInHand "I'm on Rovers' side on this one - I'm guessing they were ignorant of the seriousness of the offence.
If I'm wrong, then fine - but how do Rovers justify their signing of the thug if they were fully aware of the situation?
Your comments, Churchill, are intriguing. Were the RFL aware that Rovers were aware?? ![]()
Cockayne's court case, in which he pleaded guilty, was concluded in July last year. Rovers subsequently offered him a 3 year deal which he signed in August. Sentencing was due to be made the same week he signed his new deal, but the whole peverting the course of justice extravaganza then kicked off. I would think it unlikely that Rovers would have signed him without knowing the full details of the case which had already been concluded (bar the sentencing aspect), particularly with a solicitor as chairman.
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 5659 | |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Mar 2007 | 18 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Aug 2024 | Feb 2023 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: CHURCHILL "icon_lol.gif Go on then, fill your boots. ![]()
No, this one's solely yours, Churchy. I have a rather large spade you can borrow, though.
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 1999 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Aug 2008 | 16 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jun 2011 | Jun 2011 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: WormInHand "No, this one's solely yours, Chruchy. I have a rather large spade you can borrow, though. ![]()
Think Barista just sorted you out, wormy.
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 75 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Mar 2009 | 16 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Apr 2010 | Apr 2010 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: rover49 "Oh well, lets hang him shall we, its ok for him to batter someone but please don't get caught on telly ![]()
EH ! were did i say that . This is to do with our sport RL you know the one we pass the ball to eachother and we pride ourselves that its a family sport . Not a place for THUGS .
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 5659 | |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Mar 2007 | 18 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Aug 2024 | Feb 2023 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Mrs Barista "Cockayne's court case, in which he pleaded guilty, was concluded in July last year. Rovers subsequently offered him a 3 year deal which he signed in August. Sentencing was due to be made the same week he signed his new deal, but the whole peverting the course of justice extravaganza then kicked off. I would think it unlikely that Rovers would have signed him without knowing the full details of the case which had already been concluded (bar the sentencing aspect), particularly with a solicitor as chairman.'"
I see 
In that case, why the squealing from Rovers only now? Does Hudge need a spade, too? |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 1999 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Aug 2008 | 16 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jun 2011 | Jun 2011 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: WormInHand "I see ![]()
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 13190 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Mar 2007 | 18 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Feb 2020 | Oct 2019 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Half Full "EH ! were did i say that . This is to do with our sport RL you know the one we pass the ball to eachother and we pride ourselves that its a family sport . Not a place for THUGS . ![]()
Check my posts, I have condemned him completely and if the club sack him he will have got what he deserves, what I have seen as a common run through these discussions is people are more concerned that it was caught on CCTV, which does NOT make it any less or more serious. The only thing it proves is what he did is visible, while other players who have been convicted of assault are deemed less culpable because it was not there on the internet for all to see.
He has been convicted and sentenced in a court of law, now it seems the court of public opinion needs its pound of flesh as well, I jsy think we should leave it to the club and RFL to sort out. I agree a thug is a thug and we have had plenty of them in our sport, some can count themselves lucky there was no CCTV.
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 29797 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jul 2005 | 19 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: WormInHand "I see ![]()
Rovers will surely have planned for the 2 eventualities, prison or no prison. I'm thinking they were probably going for the usual "we'll deal with it in-house" bollox but the RFL have got involved and/or the level of bad publicity has meant they're having to go for a tougher approach.
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 13190 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Mar 2007 | 18 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Feb 2020 | Oct 2019 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Mrs Barista "Rovers will surely have planned for the 2 eventualities, prison or no prison. I'm thinking they were probably going for the usual "we'll deal with it in-house" bollox but the RFL have got involved and/or the level of bad publicity has meant they're having to go for a tougher approach.'"
So long as its not for just this case, they have my backing. I hope whatever Cockayne gets certain others get as well, after all we should be ridding our game of all THUG'S, not just THUG. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
