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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Charnley still qualifies at U18 level.'"
I'm sure he does but I'm lead to believe this lad is quite a solid unit, the lads playing centre for our u20's still look like boys imho and are nowhere near superleague yet
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It is the way of the weak to secretly bleat to those in authority rather than fight their own battles.:27608.jpg |
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| Quote: Kingmaker "Its not a case of either being 'no good', it's more that perhaps they haven't taken the opportunity to step up that a contract and regular training with the first team has given them. Maybe the forced rules regarding homegrown players as you suggest, mean that some will be given contracts when otherwise they might have missed out.
I stand by my original point though that it's terribly naive of those who say 'we should just play Mariano'. Especially when you take into consideration the next two fixtures.
The likes of Welham, Watts, Latus & Taylor prove that Morgan [iwill[/i give youngsters a chance if he thinks they're good enough. If he opts to bring in a loan player ahead of Mariano, I think it's a good indication that he doesn't believe the player is up to the level required.
It's not 'poor' of him at all. Poor would be to drop a player in at the deep end, have him absolutely annihilated for 80 minutes and cost us the game. All the time knowing he wasn't good enough in the first place.'"
I stand by my point also.
There is no point having a first team squad if you don't use it.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "First my ingenious French punning is ignored and now my metaphor is mocked.[/fit of pique]'"
I wasn't ignoring it, I just didn't get it. I did French A level, and got an A grade, but that was a [ivery[/i long time ago.
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33809_1522680904.png 'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_33809.png |
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "I wasn't ignoring it, I just didn't get it. I did French A level, and got an A grade, but that was a [ivery[/i long time ago.'"
s'awright.
Quote: Mrs Barista " Charnley.'"
Done pretty well (posted at HT). Looks to have lots potential - albeit for Wigan.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "s'awright.
Done pretty well (posted at HT). Looks to have lots potential - albeit for Wigan.'"
Brilliant first half from Rovers - the definition of momentum at the right time of the season. Not looking forward to next week.
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| I think eddie was stroking himself under the desk every time charnley touched the ball
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "I think eddie was stroking himself under the desk every time charnley touched the ball'"
Charnley went very well for a SL debut. Shame for Latus that he got done over by the game's consummate thug, Ryan Bailey - hope he's OK.
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26076_1286623377.jpg [color=#000000:1qsyq8gi]Wigan Warriors 2010:[/color:1qsyq8gi]
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[quote="Wire_91":1qsyq8gi]its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are[/quote:1qsyq8gi]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_26076.jpg |
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| So how did he do? Is it right he played centre?
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[quote="Wire_91":1qsyq8gi]its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are[/quote:1qsyq8gi]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_26076.jpg |
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| Congrats on the win BTW.
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| Quote: Famous Amos "So how did he do? Is it right he played centre?'"
Yeah, right centre. He was bloody fantastic! You've got a future GB centre on your hands if you keep him playing like that.
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| Still don't get it. Are we saying KR didn't have ANY young player who could have done what Charnley did tonight? If that is the case, what does that say about the state of coaching and scouting for the 18s and 20s? The whole idea of the 3 year franchise was, amongst other things, to allow clubs to develop THEIR OWN YOUNGSTERS, (not others).
If you are a good local player aged 15/16 and get offers from KR, Castleford, Wakefield etc. what are you going to think, "if I go for KR, I might get near the 1st team squad, that is until they see a another 'super league' ready player somewhere else!" I think previous blogs about making the numbers up for the 8 home grown player rules is spot on for Frankie Mariano etc. Short term wins are fine. but JM and his coaching staff won't be here in 5 years time. Other clubs seem to be always announcing 3,4 or 5 17 or 18 year olds signing for the 1st team squad and training full time each year, when did that last happen?
KR in danger of being a feeder club for the likes of Wigan, just as Hull are for Leeds. The next franchise app will look at how good the recruitment has been over the last 3 years, and, having to 'hire in' other academy players can't be good.
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| Quote: HKRKid "Yeah, right centre. He was bloody fantastic! You've got a future GB centre on your hands if you keep him playing like that.'"
Good to see he did well but he is really a winger, not a centre. I am quite surprised you signed him if you needed a centre.
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7063.jpg "They supercede individuals, they supercede the team and they supercede the club. Our club is a traditional, working class club and the supporters are loyal and passionate and to see them go away happy really makes my day." Craig Sandercock.:7063.jpg |
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| Quote: JohnSmith2602 "Still don't get it. Are we saying KR didn't have ANY young player who could have done what Charnley did tonight? If that is the case, what does that say about the state of coaching and scouting for the 18s and 20s? The whole idea of the 3 year franchise was, amongst other things, to allow clubs to develop THEIR OWN YOUNGSTERS, (not others).
If you are a good local player aged 15/16 and get offers from KR, Castleford, Wakefield etc. what are you going to think, "if I go for KR, I might get near the 1st team squad, that is until they see a another 'super league' ready player somewhere else!" I think previous blogs about making the numbers up for the 8 home grown player rules is spot on for Frankie Mariano etc. Short term wins are fine. but JM and his coaching staff won't be here in 5 years time. Other clubs seem to be always announcing 3,4 or 5 17 or 18 year olds signing for the 1st team squad and training full time each year, when did that last happen?
KR in danger of being a feeder club for the likes of Wigan, just as Hull are for Leeds. The next franchise app will look at how good the recruitment has been over the last 3 years, and, having to 'hire in' other academy players can't be good.'"
Erm.....
Welham, Watts, Latus, Taylor, Hodgson all count from our homegrown and all playing a part this season. How many do you want us to bring through before we get any recognition.
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| Quote: HKRKid "Yeah, right centre. He was bloody fantastic! You've got a future GB centre on your hands if you keep him playing like that.'"
Did OK for a debut, with little time to get used to the team, but there's a lot more to come from him yet - he was fairly poor by his own standards, but a lot of that comes from not quite "gelling" with Fox. That will come, with time, though. Also, he's played most of his recent career on the wing rather than centre.
Congrats on the win, BTW, and glad he played a part in it!
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Standing up to the forum bully.
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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "I stand by my point also.
There is no point having a first team squad if you don't use it.'"
AFAIK, ALL super league clubs, at various stages of their progression, have taken loan players. It's part and parcel of the game with benefits to BOTH parties. In important games its vital to have players the coach can be confident of doing the job, he obviously sees them day in and day out and is in a better position than all of us to make the call.
Think he more than made a good loan signing with Charnley.
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