FORUMS > Hull KR > Ben cockayne - *All discussion here please |
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| Quote: kitche "This cas reaction is laughable ,they seem to have acted to appear whiter than white in terminating a player who has appeared for the reserves once this season ,dont forget this is a club that gave a trial to a drug cheat chased away by his own sport who was known worldwide and then took on a previous SL drug cheat,and before you say they were both punished before so was ben cockayne .This is not in defense of ben cockayne BTW'"
Well it sounds like it, taking a steroid will only affect the person taking it (yes its wrong) . Seems beating the crap out of someone on cctv does not carry a ban as it did in the cases you refer to .
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| Quote: Half Full "Well it sounds like it, taking a steroid will only affect the person taking it (yes its wrong) . Seems beating the crap out of someone on cctv does not carry a ban as it did in the cases you refer to .'"
Because both of the cases reffered to involved something that would alter the performance of the players in the sport.
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| answer this HONESTLY would you have been as quick to sack westerman ,also your club tried to sign ben knowing of the assault
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| Quote: willowred "Cant see it to be honest, the club gave him a new contract in light of the allegations. Ben did the crime and has recieved his punishment'"
didnt get the right punishment though ive seen people jailed for far far less
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| Quote: desmond decker "didnt get the right punishment though ive seen people jailed for far far less'"
Not denying that im just saying he went up before a judge who will be experienced in these types of assaults and he passed the sentance he felt the incident warrented. I know Ben did wrong but its not his fault what sentance the judge passes down to him. The problem is with the judicial system in this country
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| Quote: kitche "answer this HONESTLY would you have been as quick to sack westerman ,also your club tried to sign ben knowing of the assault
Simple answer is, 'no they wouldn't have', nobody has heard of the player that was sacked and he ws probably a very average player.
My first post on this thread, what he did was awful and thats being nice. To kick anoher human being in the head and keep on doing it, words can't describe.
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "I know..keep up was discussing the media influence on the case and interpretation
Basically Cas have made a moral stance rightly irrelevant of the level of player..the media will use this as part of the circus which may add more pressure of KR'" Is this the same Cas that chased Ben's signature during the winter even though he had pleaded guilty?
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| Quote: Roverswall "Is this the same Cas that chased Ben's signature during the winter even though he had pleaded guilty?'"
Yes it is, but this Cas fan did not want him, im all for second chances after your punishment is done, just seems to me - so far hes walking away scott free . If it had been joe public they would be behind bars now .
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| Quote: willowred "I keep reading how Cas have done the moral thing in sacking their player but yet they were trying to and came very close to signing Ben before he signed a contract extension with us knowing full well he had pleaded guilty to the allegations
But surely you realise that neither Cas or Rovers knew the full extent of the seriousness of the violence two years ago?
All they knew is that an assault had taken place and the pair had pleaded guilty.
The full extent of the atrocious nature of the violence has only come to light during the trial, thanks in part to the CCTV footage only recently revealed.
Rovers or Cas cannot be blamed for signing the players "with this hanging over them". What they are accountable for is how they deal with the situation now it's enormity is revealed.
Cas have sacked their second rate player. As I have stated previously, Rovers are in a slightly more tricky situation as if they sack the thug, someone else will have him. The RFL MUST act to ensure no club have that option.
The fact that the thug has shown no remorse and instead has blamed his actions on a "flashback" to the time he served in Iraq (doing what, exactly?) should only make this easier for them.
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| Quote: WormInHand "thanks in part to the CCTV footage only recently revealed.'"
Wrong, again.
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| Quote: CHURCHILL "Wrong, again.
Really? Did both clubs have access to the footage when thay signed the players?
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| Quote: WormInHand "Really? Did both clubs have access to the footage when thay signed the players?'"
Go and find out for yourself.
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| Quote: CHURCHILL "Go and find out for yourself.'"
So you dont know !
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| Quote: Half Full "So you dont know !'"
I know that WIH comment isn't strictly true, yes.
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| Quote: CHURCHILL "Go and find out for yourself.'"
You seem to be insinuating that your club did indeed realise what they were dealing with.
If so, then yes, no signing should have taken place and yes, indeed, this whole show of "meetings" and "discussions" is irrelevant.
So ARE you making the assertion that Rovers knew all?
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