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| Quote: Mild Rover "British born, overseas trained players have sought and received dispensations on the non-fed rule before.'"
We could have an answer, which ones, any recent ones ?
can't recall any, what about the Hendersons?
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30596_1286642206.jpg If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
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| I only trust Mild Rover on quota issues, he's been secretly employed by Mike in a Remington correspondence on the matter for years.
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30596_1286642206.jpg If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
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| Quote: Dave K. "We could have an answer, which ones, any recent ones ?
can't recall any, what about the Hendersons?'"
I was about to comment on that and then I realised I was talking about the Bentley's.
Congrats on breeding.
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| Quote: craig hkr "One thing I would say is bringing a posters family into it isn't good form . especially young uns . When it comes to quotas etc you have to trust the club's know the rules'"
I think this goes back to when dave posted he had just had a baby so he couldn't go to the match. but he didn't quite get what the poster was on about/ don't think there was anything other than that in it.
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| Ah, I go on another sporting forum where a certain poster goes on Facebook etc and causes problems for people that is way out of line. Glad to be wrong here if so
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| On an aside the Budweiser has ran out and having to quaff Amstel now.Wouldnt drink lager in pub but can't get on with bitter in can or bottle.Watching election guff and need some more ale
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47753_1430033772.jpg JOHN THE REDBOY I have been a rovers fan all my life and my grandkids are as well:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47753.jpg |
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| Quote: craig hkr "On an aside the Budweiser has ran out and having to quaff Amstel now.Wouldnt drink lager in pub but can't get on with bitter in can or bottle.Watching election guff and need some more ale'"
Nowt wrong with john smiths in a can not cheep abroad but you can get it I hate bloody larger If in a pub in Britain or abroad I drink coke or lemonade ![Smile icon_smile.gif](images/smilies//icon_smile.gif) if no bitter
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33809_1522680904.png 'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_33809.png |
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| Quote: Dave K. "We could have an answer, which ones, any recent ones ?
can't recall any, what about the Hendersons?'"
This 2008 article summarizes some of the precedents
As an added bonus, you also get a big picture of a Rover's player's backside. Special imaginary prize to anybody who can identify the player.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "This 2008 article summarizes some of the precedents
As an added bonus, you also get a big picture of a Rover's player's backside. Special imaginary prize to anybody who can identify the player.'"
Wasn't that because the players already had contract before the rule was implemented, so it was deemed unfair, there has been 9 year since the non fed rule was brought in and all teams and players should no how it works, the fact there hasn't been any cases since (When they must be loads of players not trained here but have British passports) says that clubs/players can't find ways around the rule (Which is good).
Be interesting to see what happens with your recruitment particularity with the non fed players.
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33809_1522680904.png 'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_33809.png |
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| Quote: Dave K. "Wasn't that because the players already had contract before the rule was implemented, so it was deemed unfair, there has been 9 year since the non fed rule was brought in and all teams and players should no how it works, the fact there hasn't been any cases since (When they must be loads of players not trained here but have British passports) says that clubs/players can't find ways around the rule (Which is good).
Be interesting to see what happens with your recruitment particularity with the non fed players.'"
That (eventually) applied to all non-fed trained players. Initially just for the rest of their current contract iirc, but eventually their whole career including those who went back down under and then returned. The late notice on that amendent was what Hood is complaining about in that article.
Choosing my words carefully...
The non-fed rule is potentially legally contentious. The RFL, I suspect, did not and do not want it challenged in court. Anybody with a legal right to live and work in the UK etcetera, etcetera.
Finnigan, the Henderson brothers and Clark don't just have UK passports, but were born here, [iperhaps[/i making the RFL more receptive to their cases. The RFL tends to give itself discretionary power to ignore its own rules.
More recent cases would be less notable, so I guess they may just not have been reported. Clubs not stretching the rules might reflect that quality realistically available from the NRL has dipped.
Brexit could well render the whole thing redundant.
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| So in reality nobody really knows ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote: Dave K. "So in reality nobody really knows
Creating rules that nobody understands is where the RFL excell.
There's another example in the thread discussing young Bower and the salary cap on your board.
I have a little bit of a fetish for complexity so quite enjoy it. I also like precision and consistency though, so the RFL's other great love - discretionary ad hoc changes - winds me right up. ![Smile icon_smile.gif](images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| Quote: Dave K. "This is an adult debate and if you have nothing to add to the discussion then just ignore the posts.
Just for you I've explained what I meant in my previous post.
Point stands though he tried to be smart and get personal (again)[size about my family[/size and totally messed up.
So back on topic as far as people know the non fed quota is full at Rovers so unless you release someone you aren't getting Carter.
Who would you release if you had too?'"
The reason I bring this point up is that you make out that you are a super fan, and earlier this season you was quoting on a game, that you never attended due to babysitting a newborn, and you couldn't make a game because you had a baby. There is no malice intended towards your family, I apologise if you have taken it that way.
I personally think you are an arrogant poster, who is never wrong, you posted that I was trying to be a "smart alec", and that I was wrong in bringing up the fact Clark was born in UK so is exempt. I am right on this point.
We DO NOT need to release somebody to accommodate an oversees signing.
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| How many of your non fed players are contracted beyond 2017? It's OK bringing more in but there doesn't seem to be a lot of quality in your overseas players if you do win promotion and don't have much manouvre room to bring better quality overseas players in for next year
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "How many of your non fed players are contracted beyond 2017? It's OK bringing more in but there doesn't seem to be a lot of quality in your overseas players if you do win promotion and don't have much manouvre room to bring better quality overseas players in for next year'"
Heffernan, ZDC, Carney and Blair all are iirc.
JBF and Quinlan, I'm not sure.
We have to get up before we start worrying about staying up. Running a bigger squad with fewer stars, is probably the way we'd go though. From necessity and because injuries is now maybe the single biggest challenge a coach faces.
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