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is there some glory trophy winning years I missed out on before sandercock came he has a similar sort of record to Morgan yet Morgan is treated like a God

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Quote: fun time frankie "is there some glory trophy winning years I missed out on before sandercock came he has a similar sort of record to Morgan yet Morgan is treated like a God'"

morgan got you to the dizzy heights of 4th, sandy will have had you finish outside the top 8 in 2 of his 3 years in charge by the end of this season

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Quote: fun time frankie "is there some glory trophy winning years I missed out on before sandercock came he has a similar sort of record to Morgan yet Morgan is treated like a God'"


It’s not really fair to compare, but…
Morgan got us up, kept us up, got us into the play-offs and won a play-off game. It was uneven at times, but it was definitely progress and it was all new.
Sandercock got the ‘transitional’ brief. It turned out to be a tough one – there were a couple of SL quality players coming through the ranks, rather than the cohort we hoped for. And the quality available from Australia was not quite what it had been. The board have given him more money to spend this year, it seems, but the honeymoon period was over already and it hasn’t exactly been a great leap forward.
Morgan made mistakes – the two year extension for David Mills, for example. But a lot of CS’s signings (and players he gave extensions to) haven’t worked out for one reason or another.
While it shouldn’t matter, Morgan engendered a much greater sense of optimism, a feel good factor. Mind you, his worst year for injuries was probably better than Sandercock’s best.
Sandercock has done okay-ish. Just about. Under the circumstances. People at the club will see what he does behind the scenes and I can only think that the offer of a new contract is based heavily on that.

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If the fans think Hudge is at the club everyday or Mike Smith is forever checking on CS then you are all deluded. I would say they probably meet once a week and apart from field sessions, the directors will never see the 'work' that goes on.

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Although not particularly a Sandy fan I can't believe some of the comments on here.
How can you blame the coach for what has happened with regard to injuries.
Poore & Langley Knee / Patela injuries very very rare
Cox & Laroyer Broken Legs
Cockayne not sure but long term
Lovegrove unknown
D Hodgson was out for quite while
Gleeson had to retire after not really making any input to Rovers
A Walker knee
J Walker knee
Eden what can you say ( Brain Storms )
Caro unknown
That's at least 12 players from what you could call first team regulars out for the best part of the season come give the guy a fare shout. And on top of that we have had guys suspended by a bent disciplinary system and our Chairman done a grand for telling the truth

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Personally, I cant believe how many support him on here!

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Quote: Mild Rover "It’s not really fair to compare, but…
Morgan got us up, kept us up, got us into the play-offs and won a play-off game. It was uneven at times, but it was definitely progress and it was all new.
Sandercock got the ‘transitional’ brief. It turned out to be a tough one – there were a couple of SL quality players coming through the ranks, rather than the cohort we hoped for. And the quality available from Australia was not quite what it had been. The board have given him more money to spend this year, it seems, but the honeymoon period was over already and it hasn’t exactly been a great leap forward.
Morgan made mistakes – the two year extension for David Mills, for example. But a lot of CS’s signings (and players he gave extensions to) haven’t worked out for one reason or another.
While it shouldn’t matter, Morgan engendered a much greater sense of optimism, a feel good factor. Mind you, his worst year for injuries was probably better than Sandercock’s best.
Sandercock has done okay-ish. Just about. Under the circumstances. People at the club will see what he does behind the scenes and I can only think that the offer of a new contract is based heavily on that.'"

Bob on with that comment MR, good post too. Feels like Sandy has a big black cloud above his head constantly, and that transfers to the fans!

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I will always appreciate what Morgan did for us he always talked a good game was very good with the media but everytime we went away to a big side I never had the confidence we would win and more often then not we didn't Morgans last season we scraped into the play offs with a win against a injury hit cas side them got hammered in the play offs same as in the season we finished fourth two hammerings in the play offs and the first season aside Morgan had a better squad of players

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Quote: easthull4 "Although not particularly a Sandy fan I can't believe some of the comments on here.
How can you blame the coach for what has happened with regard to injuries.
Poore & Langley Knee / Patela injuries very very rare
Cox & Laroyer Broken Legs
Cockayne not sure but long term
Lovegrove unknown
D Hodgson was out for quite while
Gleeson had to retire after not really making any input to Rovers
A Walker knee
J Walker knee
Eden what can you say ( Brain Storms )
Caro unknown
That's at least 12 players from what you could call first team regulars out for the best part of the season come give the guy a fare shout. And on top of that we have had guys suspended by a bent disciplinary system and our Chairman done a grand for telling the truth'"


Another fully paid up member of the HKR victim mentality brigade.

Newsflash - all teams get injuries. Good sides just get on with it and get results.

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Quote: SirStan "Another fully paid up member of the HKR victim mentality brigade.

Newsflash - all teams get injuries. Good sides just get on with it and get results.'"

You have answered my post with your own answer At this time in the season Rovers are not a good side

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Quote: easthull4 "You have answered my post with your own answer At this time in the season Rovers are not a good side'"

Sorry you have lost me squire?

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Quote: SirStan "Sorry you have lost me squire?'"



I believe he is referring to the section of your post where you said..... all teams get injuries. Good sides just get on with it it.
In particular I think he was pointing out the fact that you mentioned injuries and good sides in the same breath(so to speak), two words that don't currently match up together as far as Rovers are concerned. icon_smile.gif

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Quote: easthull4 "Although not particularly a Sandy fan I can't believe some of the comments on here.
How can you blame the coach for what has happened with regard to injuries.
Poore & Langley Knee / Patela injuries very very rare
Cox & Laroyer Broken Legs
Cockayne not sure but long term
Lovegrove unknown
D Hodgson was out for quite while
Gleeson had to retire after not really making any input to Rovers
A Walker knee
J Walker knee
Eden what can you say ( Brain Storms )
Caro unknown
That's at least 12 players from what you could call first team regulars out for the best part of the season come give the guy a fare shout. And on top of that we have had guys suspended by a bent disciplinary system and our Chairman done a grand for telling the truth'"

Best part of the season? cox, cockayne and laroyer got injured in game 14, lovegrove some time after and langley in game 15. poor would have been suspended for the rest of the season anyway and the walker brother have missed about 9 weeks between them. caro isn't injured and eden is available for selection.

sandycock must be some kind of super hypnotist, he seems to have that many believing the rubbish he spouts. All clubs get injuries

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Quote: Jake the Peg "Best part of the season? cox, cockayne and laroyer got injured in game 14, lovegrove some time after and langley in game 15. poor would have been suspended for the rest of the season anyway and the walker brother have missed about 9 weeks between them. caro isn't injured and eden is available for selection.

sandycock must be some kind of super hypnotist, he seems to have that many believing the rubbish he spouts. All clubs get injuries'"



Pretty good summary Jake, Sandercock (directly or indirectly) has this year blamed the hard opening set of games, injuries to key positions, referees and the disciplinary panel and the fact other teams have better players!!

Bradford are widely labelled as the one of the worst teams in SL, the have had an interupted pre season, lost a portion of there squad in the preseason due to financial worries and must be operating at way under the cap, yet Franny Cummins still led them only 2 less wins than us in the first 16 games and they binned him..

Quote: Jake the Peg " Morgan had a better squad of players'"


I agree because he selected / acquired a better squad of players, I'm pretty certain he never had anymore money and he was recruiting into a team that had no youth structure or kudos to attract better players.
Sandercocks great work with youth is something of a misnomer as well, Morgan came into a team that had had no investment into the youth structure yet still brought through Welham (who was good under JM) Taylor and developed Lovegrove into a good SL player. How many had CS actually turned into good players??

Darryl Powell is being Lauded for being a great coach and he is doing well, but as yet he's doing nothing more than JM did with us.

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the only table well ever top whilst CS is in charge is the missed tackles one icon_wink.gif

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