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| Quote: Mrs Barista "You said (coincidentally just before he signed for Rovers) that, if Rovers could have signed any prop in the world, you'd have signed Joel Clinton. Outstanding and credible judgement. ![]()
Ah. Instead of posting about George Griffin, you choose to bring up a 4 year old post - you're still a parasite I see.
On the odd occasion Clinton turned up to play, he was our best front rower - for instance his performance at Wakefield was a major part of us winning the game. Poor players don't win NRL GF's or play for Australia and four years ago (yes four years ago) he appeared to be the right signing for the club.
Unfortunately, despite his talent, I don't think he actually had any real passion or desire for the game and simply looked at it as a job - I told him this at the Rovers POTY dinner and he was gracious for my honesty.
Anyway, back on topic.
George Griffin,; if we can't sign another front-rower, I think maybe we should get him to put some weight on and play in the middle.
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| Quote: General Zod. "Ah. Instead of posting about George Griffin, you choose to bring up a 4 year old post - you're still a parasite I see.
On the odd occasion Clinton turned up to play, he was our best front rower - for instance his performance at Wakefield was a major part of us winning the game. Poor players don't win NRL GF's or play for Australia and four years ago (yes four years ago) he appeared to be the right signing for the club.
Unfortunately, despite his talent, I don't think he actually had any real passion or desire for the game and simply looked at it as a job - I told him this at the Rovers POTY dinner and he was gracious for my honesty.
Anyway, back on topic.
George Griffin,; if we can't sign another front-rower, I think maybe we should get him to put some weight on and play in the middle.'"
You're presenting an upbeat view of Rovers player Griffin. I'm presenting previously documented opinions of yours which show your views to be flawed/Rovers-biased. Your follow-up on Clinton provides a bit more insight on this. 3 years ago, such were his performances, you said you'd take him over any prop in the world (Rovers were being linked with him, but I'm sure this was entirely coincidental). He rocks up at Rovers and spectacularly fails to deliver over a 3 year period, steals a living, if you will. You then say it's because he doesn't have any passion for the game itself. How could he have been at the top of your list of world props to bring in if he wasn't really bothered about the game? Perhaps some of his underdelivery was that he was underwhelmed with the Rovers set-up, or perhaps he shares the same views on your chairman as @mase21, Willie Mason, since his loss of performance coincided entirely with his tenure at Rovers. Neither of us know, but based on the correlations before us, to attribute his lack of interest in RL per se could be construed as Rovers-biased.
There are, of course, further examples.
You predicted Tom Briscoe's lack of top class outside back attributes meant that by 2012 he'd be probably be a back-rower. The reality is that he (unlike Offiah-esque Fox) is still in and around the international squad and some NRL clubs are likely to be in for him next year. Not, I'd imagine, as a back-rower
You said that Tommy Lee's has a far more complete skill set than Danny Houghton. The reality is that Houghton is England Knights captain, at hooker, and player's player of the year at FC for the second year running.
The point is, this is not the nodding dogs forum where you can pick any aspect of what Rovers are doing and fabricate an apologetic post-rationalisation without challenge. You launch a rather laboured justification of the under-30s only approach, which could be summarised as lower age = fewer injuries. The missing challenges to this are:
Rovers have a squad of under 30s because they can't/don't want to pay the market rate for, or can't attract, big names.
Your long term absentees this year included sub 30 year olds such as Welham, Cox, Green, Lovegrove.
The top teams have a very significant proportion of over 30s
The best of your young players may choose to use Rovers as simply a stepping stone to Wigan, Leeds..
Anyway, Griffin. Heard good things about him. Sounds like a 2013 breakthrough player. | | |
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read the first two lines, same old. disappear barista
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "You're presenting an upbeat view of Rovers player Griffin. I'm presenting previously documented opinions of yours which show your views to be flawed/Rovers-biased. Your follow-up on Clinton provides a bit more insight on this. 3 years ago, such were his performances, you said you'd take him over any prop in the world (Rovers were being linked with him, but I'm sure this was entirely coincidental). He rocks up at Rovers and spectacularly fails to deliver over a 3 year period, steals a living, if you will. You then say it's because he doesn't have any passion for the game itself. How could he have been at the top of your list of world props to bring in if he wasn't really bothered about the game? Perhaps some of his underdelivery was that he was underwhelmed with the Rovers set-up, or perhaps he shares the same views on your chairman as @mase21, Willie Mason, since his loss of performance coincided entirely with his tenure at Rovers. Neither of us know, but based on the correlations before us, to attribute his lack of interest in RL per se could be construed as Rovers-biased.
There are, of course, further examples.
You predicted Tom Briscoe's lack of top class outside back attributes meant that by 2012 he'd be probably be a back-rower. The reality is that he (unlike Offiah-esque Fox) is still in and around the international squad and some NRL clubs are likely to be in for him next year. Not, I'd imagine, as a back-rower
You said that Tommy Lee's has a far more complete skill set than Danny Houghton. The reality is that Houghton is England Knights captain, at hooker, and player's player of the year at FC for the second year running.
The point is, this is not the nodding dogs forum where you can pick any aspect of what Rovers are doing and fabricate an apologetic post-rationalisation without challenge. You launch a rather laboured justification of the under-30s only approach, which could be summarised as lower age
funny you missed out galea as one of our long term absentees mind you he plays for hull now and wouldnt make your argument seem as good would it
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| Quote: fun time frankie "funny you missed out galea as one of our long term absentees mind you he plays for hull now and wouldnt make your argument seem as good would it'"
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| Quote: fun time frankie "funny you missed out galea as one of our long term absentees mind you he plays for hull now and wouldnt make your argument seem as good would it'"
I said "included", not "was limited too". Old players get injured too, obviously. If you want to generalise, there is a greater likelihood that they get injuries than younger players. But to go to the extreme of saying no player should be signed over 30, when there were 14 of them on display in the Grand Final, is silly. Experience of the sort Sinfield, Peacock, Briers, Monaghan, Menzies, Finch and co bring to the comp is undeniable in its influence. Saying it's a long term build for the future is fine (assuming, of course, you can retain your best talent like Taylor). But as Neil Hudgell once put it, the competition should be about the here and now and anything less is selling the supporters short. | | | |
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Cannot wait Mr Barista read and weep
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "You're presenting an upbeat view of Rovers player Griffin. I'm presenting previously documented opinions of yours which show your views to be flawed/Rovers-biased. Your follow-up on Clinton provides a bit more insight on this. 3 years ago, such were his performances, you said you'd take him over any prop in the world (Rovers were being linked with him, but I'm sure this was entirely coincidental). He rocks up at Rovers and spectacularly fails to deliver over a 3 year period, steals a living, if you will. You then say it's because he doesn't have any passion for the game itself. How could he have been at the top of your list of world props to bring in if he wasn't really bothered about the game? Perhaps some of his underdelivery was that he was underwhelmed with the Rovers set-up, or perhaps he shares the same views on your chairman as @mase21, Willie Mason, since his loss of performance coincided entirely with his tenure at Rovers. Neither of us know, but based on the correlations before us, to attribute his lack of interest in RL per se could be construed as Rovers-biased.
There are, of course, further examples.
You predicted Tom Briscoe's lack of top class outside back attributes meant that by 2012 he'd be probably be a back-rower. The reality is that he (unlike Offiah-esque Fox) is still in and around the international squad and some NRL clubs are likely to be in for him next year. Not, I'd imagine, as a back-rower
You said that Tommy Lee's has a far more complete skill set than Danny Houghton. The reality is that Houghton is England Knights captain, at hooker, and player's player of the year at FC for the second year running.
The point is, this is not the nodding dogs forum where you can pick any aspect of what Rovers are doing and fabricate an apologetic post-rationalisation without challenge. You launch a rather laboured justification of the under-30s only approach, which could be summarised as lower age
It's generally impossible to identify to true context of a quote/statement without reading the build up to that quote and even then, like any type of text, it's meaning can be open for interpretation in the context of how it's meant.
You have a reoccurring tendency to regurgitate my previous postings totally out of context of their original meaning - and all most out of the context of where a current thread is going so a lot of threads end a discussion of the same things, over and over and over again, and the original thread is derailed.
Building a massive database of bookmarks with the aim of referring to them years later is simply not normal or adult behaviour which I'd suggest you probably already know, but refuse to face up to, and regardless of how big your house is, how much money you earn, I'd suggest it's in your best interests to seek help from a councillor to address these issues because referring to ancient quotes over and over again, year on year, will not justify your pathetic need for your database of quotes.
The bottom line is this; I'll post what I what, when I want, so I'd suggest it's time your leech like behaviour is curbed.
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| Quote: General Zod. "It's generally impossible to identify to true context of a quote/statement without reading the build up to that quote and even then, like any type of text, it's meaning can be open for interpretation in the context of how it's meant.
You have a reoccurring tendency to regurgitate my previous postings totally out of context of their original meaning - and all most out of the context of where a current thread is going so a lot of threads end a discussion of the same things, over and over and over again, and the original thread is derailed.
Building a massive database of bookmarks with the aim of referring to them years later is simply not normal or adult behaviour which I'd suggest you probably already know, but refuse to face up to, and regardless of how big your house is, how much money you earn, I'd suggest it's in your best interests to seek help from a councillor to address these issues because referring to ancient quotes over and over again, year on year, will not justify your pathetic need for your database of quotes.
The bottom line is this; I'll post what I what, when I want, so I'd suggest it's time your leech like behaviour is curbed.'"
Great news, I love your posts they really are amusing. In fact I have yet to meet another poster who is on your level for the wrong calls | | |
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "I said "included", not "was limited too". Old players get injured too, obviously. If you want to generalise, there is a greater likelihood that they get injuries than younger players. But to go to the extreme of saying no player should be signed over 30, when there were 14 of them on display in the Grand Final, is silly. Experience of the sort Sinfield, Peacock, Briers, Monaghan, Menzies, Finch and co bring to the comp is undeniable in its influence. Saying it's a long term build for the future is fine (assuming, of course, you can retain your best talent like Taylor). But as Neil Hudgell once put it, the competition should be about the here and now and anything less is selling the supporters short.'"
teams need experienced players i never said they didnt but you seem to just pick out the pieces that suits your own argument and you can bookmark this and bring it up next season galea much as i like him will be a bad signing prince will sign i think but doesnt really want to come your his last resort and i dont think ellis will stay fit your bought him 2 seasons to late | | |
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| Quote: Bet Lynch "Great news, I love your posts they really are amusing. In fact I have yet to meet another poster who is on your level for the wrong calls ![]()
Well unfortunately because my right calls are never regurgitated, then this is the impression you get.
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| Quote: General Zod. "Well unfortunately because my right calls are never regurgitated, then this is the impression you get.'"
I'm sure that at some point in your life you will make a correct call and you'll make us all aware of it. Seems it could be some way off though.
Anyone still got a link to the thread where he rubbished briscoe and told us how fox was as good as offiah? | | |
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "I'm sure that at some point in your life you will make a correct call and you'll make us all aware of it. Seems it could be some way off though.'"
There's a few calls but I don't think anyone is really interested so there's no point.
Quote: Jake the Peg "Anyone still got a link to the thread where he rubbished briscoe and told us how fox was as good as offiah?'"
I'm afraid not, because believe it or not, I never actually said that.
Compulsion to constantly re-visit 3 year old threads is pathetic. | | |
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| Quote: fun time frankie "teams need experienced players i never said they didnt but you seem to just pick out the pieces that suits your own argument and you can bookmark this and bring it up next season galea much as i like him will be a bad signing prince will sign i think but doesnt really want to come your his last resort and i dont think ellis will stay fit your bought him 2 seasons to late'"
So basically Galea is finished, Prince is reluctantly coming for his pension, and Ellis is crocked....
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