Quote Ewwenorfolk="Ewwenorfolk"Come on Wilko, I think you know you're being a bit harsh with your criticism here.
Yes you were weakened on our friendly, but you cannot deny that Kearney looked good and was very dangerous with ball in hand.
So Menzies & Lynch aren't leaders at all then? Plus Orford is a proven good captain, adn L'Estrange seems like one of the characters who is always spurring the team on.
Saying our squad is full of average journey men is ridiculous and you know it.
Journey men : Sheriffe, Platt, Sykes, Sculthorpe are the only real journey men I see. We have alot of youngsters coming through, and a fair bit of good talent.
Would you seriously call any of Menzies, Lynch, Scruton, Langley, Halley, Kopzcak, L'Estrange, Kearney, Orford, Hall, Kearney or any of the youngsters journeymen? Less than a quarter of our squad are what i'd consider journeymen, hardly full of them?
And if we hadn't have let Burgess go, I doubt he'd have played like he did in the 4 nations for us, if he doesn't want to be here, plus you had the same thing with Ellis and didn't seem to suffer.
Lastly, he needs to prove himself, and I find it harder to disagree with your last point!'"
ok my old mucker where do i start?
ok lets look at the journey men, add to your list reardon, nero, worrincy, godwin
so thats reardon, nero, worrincy, godwin, Sheriffe, Platt, Sykes, Sculthorpe. that more than a few holes in your squad plugged imho.
kearney could go either way, all i will say is chris thorman was awesome(maybe the best player on the pitch) in jjbs testimonial in preseason 09 when fc beat leeds and we all know how his season went?
Quote Ewwenorfolk="Ewwenorfolk"So Menzies & Lynch aren't leaders at all then? Plus Orford is a proven good captain, adn L'Estrange seems like one of the characters who is always spurring the team on'"
the players i mentioned, deacs, morro, newton, burgess. deacs he was the bulls, its heart, its captain its leader on and off the field. morro and newton your pack leaders and burgess your best player and hope for the future. dont disrespect them by saying orford and L'Estrange who have been off the plane a month warrent a mention in filling that void, that will take time. even menzies despite his true professionalism has only been here 12 months and is really only here for his last pay day.
lynch and langley are still around i will give you that and the return of reardon is a plus.
Quote Ewwenorfolk="Ewwenorfolk" And if we hadn't have let Burgess go, I doubt he'd have played like he did in the 4 nations for us, if he doesn't want to be here, plus you had the same thing with Ellis and didn't seem to suffer. '"
ellis wasnt the same thing at all! ellis wasnt leeds best player, he was one of many awesome players, imo burgess was your best by a mile. leeds were back to back champs when gaz left and was out of contract. burgess left early from a team that couldnt make the playoffs, thats the difference.
like ive said mate you could have a massive season, i dont think its a rosey as a few of you think but probably not as bad as i think! as seen as i recon you could well miss the play offs again. you said yourself on the bulls board that there are 9 teams that could finish anywhere from 3rd to 11th.
its gonna be a cracking season thats for sure!
sorry to all you robins for derailing your thread!