see what you mean . michaels,kelly ,watts,westerman etc,alot of them have baggage.even the great adamski is a criminal

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Who are all these high calibre signings Toronto have brought in

Joe westerman.. .. Oh hang on..

#pray for torontos high calibre signings, stick to putting your gums around adamskis plums

Having seen almost all of Toronto's games this season and last, there most consistant best players hav been players like Beswick, Kay, Paterson and QLT. I really dont rate any of the so called "high calabre" players on what i have seen.

# pray for DGM

Stanley, Simms, Lussick, Mccrone, O Brien and Russel are all very good players, all of those have had very good careers in either SL or the NRL, are most are at a good age and would look good in SL.

I think they are a big threat to any SL clubs who are in the middle 8's.

I think you will be OK, as I think Widnes are the ones who will drop out, Salford might also join them, but they have some good players if they start to play, just in poor form at the moment, still looked strong in spellls against us.

Think Rovers will be Ok if they get Mcguire and Lunt playing.

Tompkins is Ok, nothing special any more and I'd be more worried about his playing ability than off field matters, but he has to be an improvement on Chris Clarkson.

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Simms o brien and Russel are average at best and I don’t buy into just because they have NRL experience they are automatically good Kris Keating played in a grand final and Dane Tilse played well over a 100 first grade games

The thing with the 8s is that they’re so brief that one slightly surprising result has a potentially massive impact on your chances. They’re very tough to predict across the crucial positions in mid-table. At least they offer some excitement after what’ll effectively have been a sixth month pre-season. As was last year in fairness, but the psychology of a promotion push is different to a relegation battle.

I feel a bit for Clarkson because he’s not a bad player at all. He’s just deeply unspectacular, and we’ve got about seven of him. Mind you, without so much middling depth, we’d have struggled to field a 17 some weeks this year.

Tilse played more than 200 NRL games. Like Clarkson, he wasn’t a bad player and with some better quality and more energy/impact around him he’d have been alright. We just seem to have got addicted to bland workmanlike forwards.

Keating was a strange one.

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I personally didn’t mind the much maligned Tilse he ended up been a bit of a scapegoat in the end he was better than Clinton and probably a lot cheaper

All three would improve the likes of Rover Widnes and Salford IMO.

Having watched Lussick and Stanley in the NRL, both good players who would/will do well in the NRL.

high calibre was quoted

Daves listed them out - most of them were signed during this season, and pretty much all of those listed would walk into Rovers’ 17.

I imagine you’ll be fine though. Widnes aren’t doing much in the way of recruitment and Salford look knackered. Toronto will replace one of those two IMO.

Lussick and Stanley both have over 100 NRL games each under their belts.