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| After four games in, its probably unfair and premature to say this but yesterday was the ideal stage for Abdull to dominate the middle of the park but he just fizzled out? Yet, in the first half he had his best spell? I remain unconvinced he is the half back Rovers need for the Mid8s.
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| Quote: Gallanteer "Moss may have been a good FB in a poor Bradford side. Quinlan was a good FB in a very good Saints side during his time there. And from what I've seen on the pitch Moss has shown nothing that would want me to choose him over Quinlan. So either Moss improves on the wing or is replaced. He's not a bad player at all, just indecisive. He can get away with that against our current level of opponents but....'"
Opinions are great aren't they? I think that Moss is wasted on the wing. All game he kept coming in field looking for work. I wouldn't have said he was indecisive at all. To me he looks like he wants to be more involved in play.
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| Firmer grounds will benefit Moss more than any other player imo. Looking a little lost atm. Does Minns have a problem passing to his left?
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| Quote: Paul_HKR "After four games in, its probably unfair and premature to say this but yesterday was the ideal stage for Abdull to dominate the middle of the park but he just fizzled out? Yet, in the first half he had his best spell? I remain unconvinced he is the half back Rovers need for the Mid8s.'"
Abdul as always blown hot and cold where ever he has played. At Doncaster last season they couldn't work him out and didn't know which player was going to take the field. Featherstone ditto
This is one of the main reasons Hull have sent him out on loan. This season he is looking much leaner and fitter, and has put in some very good performances.
I thought yesterday he played really well in first half and did the same as the rest of the team in the second ( errors and let Oldham slow us down).
He needs time to develop and find consistency, if he doesn't. a spell on the bench with Quiinlan to the half's and Moss or Charlie to F.B. is an option.
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| Quote: BiltonRobin "Abdul as always blown hot and cold where ever he has played. At Doncaster last season they couldn't work him out and didn't know which player was going to take the field. Featherstone ditto
This is one of the main reasons Hull have sent him out on loan. This season he is looking much leaner and fitter, and has put in some very good performances.
I thought yesterday he played really well in first half and did the same as the rest of the team in the second ( errors and let Oldham slow us down).
He needs time to develop and find consistency, if he doesn't. a spell on the bench with Quiinlan to the half's and Moss or Charlie to F.B. is an option.'"
Interesting, but we actually need experience in the half backs. I'd be tempted to put Bobby in the halves for a game or two to bring a bit of stability. Abdul put in some very iffy kicks in the first half but overall was OK.
I think we're all stating that the half back combo isn't quite working yet. Might just need a bit more time.
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| Round 4 was a definite improvement on round 1 so there is no question we are heading in the right direction. So long as those steady improvements continue (and there will be some bumps along the way) then I'm very confident that we will be ready for the bottom Super League teams when we meet them.
The Moss/Quinlan/Abdull debates will continue all year I reckon and their best positions but for the time being I would leave them where they are, allow the team to gel and try to get the best out of them. Its pretty clear that we need to get the ball in Moss' hands as often as possible in space and I think that Tim Sheens is smart enough to realise that and make it happen whatever position he is playing.
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| radio Humberside reporting that Cockayne, Kavanagh and Horne to play on Sunday
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| Game day.ready for a pint and another improved performance. On paper the weakest team we have played so far? Score could be anything
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| Quote: craig hkr "Game day.ready for a pint and another improved performance. On paper the weakest team we have played so far? Score could be anything'"
There we are, tempting fate with a smoky come-hither glance, fluttered lashes, lip pout, curled finger and dress slit to the thigh.
Superstitious, I know.
Tbf, 'score could be anything' gives us an out when Sheffield, now inevitably, run in their sixteenth try.
Another win and just keep building, I hope.
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| Well that was a fairly horrible game, particularly the first forty.
Every game is endless spoiling tactics and referee's allowing it. I could have made a cup of tea in the time some of the Sheffield players took to clear the ruck.
We were extremely complacent in the first half, poor energy, passive at contact and very little creativity. Fair enough it was a very cold day, it was raining and the pitch looked pretty heavy but Sheffield managed about five line breaks to our one.
I don't know what's wrong with Bobby Blair but he looks completely uninterested, Greenwood is also very very casual. What should be the best second row partnership in the competition is way off at the moment.
Early days and it's all about getting to the cacky eights but there's a lot of work for Sheens to do with this team.
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| Well it seems Sheens shares my view about Moss with him being dropped. Or it could be that the conditions better suited Charlie than Moss.
First 30 mins were very lazy today although forward passes and a ref not keeping up with the game didn't help. Still waiting for a full 80 minutes of concentration. That stated, another big win.
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| Quote: Sandro II Terrorista "Well that was a fairly horrible game, particularly the first forty.
Every game is endless spoiling tactics and referee's allowing it. I could have made a cup of tea in the time some of the Sheffield players took to clear the ruck.
We were extremely complacent in the first half, poor energy, passive at contact and very little creativity. Fair enough it was a very cold day, it was raining and the pitch looked pretty heavy but Sheffield managed about five line breaks to our one.
I don't know what's wrong with Bobby Blair but he looks completely uninterested, Greenwood is also very very casual. What should be the best second row partnership in the competition is way off at the moment.
Early days and it's all about getting to the cacky eights but there's a lot of work for Sheens to do with this team.'"
I like the challenges the Championship brings – spoiling tactics, pedestrian PTBs etc – and the big physical packs of the opposition who seem intent on knocking Rovers blocks off! Reminds me of bygone days of your Casey’s, Burtons and Skerrets.
I’ve seen a lot of the championship over the past 2-3 seasons, so know Rovers will get this every week so the sooner they wise up to it the better. I believe today we actually saw a major stride forward in Rovers coming to terms with this league - for the first time they dominated the middle of the park - Scruton, Donno and Lunt had cracking games.
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| Quote: Gallanteer "Well it seems Sheens shares my view about Moss with him being dropped. Or it could be that the conditions better suited Charlie than Moss. '"
Sheens says it was a toss of a coin between Moss or Shaw, nothing to do with performance, more about rotation. Shaw will not play against Dewsbury, Moss will return.
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| Tough conditions. Our enthusiasm in the first half hour was zero. We could have been 20 plus points in arrears to a better team.
Admired the way Chisholm singlehandedly almost played Sheffield into the ascendancy in that first half as if he had a point to prove to Sheens and others at Hull KR. He faded like his team as the game went on.
Thought our forwards laid a good platform through the middle with Donno and Scruton outstanding followed by Lunt, Clarkson and Mulhern. Blair and Greenwood anonymous again. Kavanagh ain't no Mitch Clark on that showing, but he looks rusty. Will get better.
Odd flashes of brilliance from all the backs but guilty of overplaying again and the final ball was rubbish, meaning we bombed another 4 tries at least. The kicking game was bang average.
Happy with another half century of points and the second half nilling. Referee is only 21 and useless on that performance. Was it me or did the Sheffield right winger with the sunshine roof look about 50?
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| We are now 5 games in and it's about time we started to see level of game management.
Sheffield out enthused us and had a greater energy level in that first half.
We were crying out for someone to start turning them around with a controlled kicking game. Instead we tried to beat them down the middle with one man rugby.
No one on the field seems capable of orchestrating changes to combat what teams are producing against us.
If we don't start to gel soon, Easter will be our first disappointment of the season.
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