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The Mental Girlfriend Syndrome (MGS) of this, is that I know this will happen yet I already have my ticket and two hundred mile round trip planned.

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Quote: craig hkr "The point being made is until now fc have had a great run injury wise.is it the training or because they've been dominant in games,luck or more likely a bit of all 3?will be interesting to see both 19s for Thursday. Last 4 derby for me have been won largely because of power in back row.last year mini, ellis,Wester man. This year mini ellis and tank or manu. Our back row of Horne Clarkson Donaldson or Larroyer looks outgunned.front row and backs I feel we've matched up fine for most part. I'm not making predictions for this game til I see squads but if no ellis n Minichello it would be a big miss for them'"



I fully agree. On Friday when mini went off we had him, ellis and pritchard injured and manu off the field for a chunk of the game meaning we didn't have the same impact out wide, putting extra pressure on the already overworked props. Had mini not got injured we'd have won the game IMO and when we have our full back row available we're a completely different team. unfortunately those instances have been few and far between with injuries, trips home and suspensions hitting us

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Quote: Dave K. "Just listened to it, didn't once use injuries as an excuse for the defeat.

So I'm still looking for some quotes as to Radford using the weather or injuries as an excuse for the last two defeats.'"



Perhaps you could listen to the post match interview on your club's official site Dave regards the Leeds match Dave. Although the sound quality from the floor leaves a lot to be desired the reporter asks how injuries affected the game (or words to that effect). LR answers 'massively' and goes on to expand this comment. HTH.

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Quote: Structured "Perhaps you could listen to the post match interview on your club's official site Dave regards the Leeds match Dave. Although the sound quality from the floor leaves a lot to be desired the reporter asks how injuries affected the game (or words to that effect). LR answers 'massively' and goes on to expand this comment. HTH.'"


Did he say injuries cost us the game, like you quoted? Surley you aren't that dumb to realise that 3/4 injuries during the game will effect a game, but at no point does he blame these for the defeat.HTH.

Let me know again when you have a quote from Radford blaming injuries or the rain for the last two defeats.

He has been very honest this year in interviews and hasn't used excuses once like most other coaches.

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Quote: Dave K. "Did he say injuries cost us the game, like you quoted? Surley you aren't that dumb to realise that 3/4 injuries during the game will effect a game, but at no point does he blame these for the defeat.HTH.

Let me know again when you have a quote from Radford blaming injuries or the rain for the last two defeats.

He has been very honest this year in interviews and hasn't used excuses once like most other coaches.'"



Stop being pedantic. Typical Hull fan.

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Quote: LifeLongHKRFan "Stop being pedantic. Typical Hull fan.'"


It's not, it's a typical Rovers fan making things up, anyway it's been done to death an off topic.

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Also, how nice is it to see Structured back posting?

Went missing after the first derby and now he's back in Derby week. He must be feeling confident for this one old Zoddy?

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Quote: Dave K. "Did he say injuries cost us the game, like you quoted? Surley you aren't that dumb to realise that 3/4 injuries during the game will effect a game, but at no point does he blame these for the defeat.HTH.

Let me know again when you have a quote from Radford blaming injuries or the rain for the last two defeats.

He has been very honest this year in interviews and hasn't used excuses once like most other coaches.'"

Oh god Dave yeah your right Radford is honest that's why he said we've got to learn to play in these conditions because come grand final time these are what the conditions are like how come you don't hear any of this just admit it and we can all move on

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Quote: fun time frankie "Oh god Dave yeah your right Radford is honest that's why he said we've got to learn to play in these conditions because come grand final time these are what the conditions are like how come you don't hear any of this just admit it and we can all move on'"


I interpreted it to mean that he blamed our ability to cope with the conditions, rather than the conditions themselves, and that was an area of our game we had to improve.

The weather is the same for both sides, yet some seem to handle it better than we do in poor conditions, so it's a fair point saying we need to cope better when playing in it. Same as if a coach said, "we need to improve our away form", that's not them blaming away fixtures, but their own players/themselves.

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Quote: Doom&Gloom Merchant "I interpreted it to mean that he blamed our ability to cope with the conditions, rather than the conditions themselves, and that was an area of our game we had to improve.

The weather is the same for both sides, yet some seem to handle it better than we do in poor conditions, so it's a fair point saying we need to cope better when playing in it. Same as if a coach said, "we need to improve our away form", that's not them blaming away fixtures, but their own players/themselves.'"

Isn't that the same thing really

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See the title of this it will be that went well part 2. After Thursday cos Thaler ref Childs linesman and Phil Bentham video ref

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Quote: fun time frankie "Isn't that the same thing really'"


No.

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einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result:



Quote: Doom&Gloom Merchant "No.'"

What we lost because we couldn't play the conditions what part of that is not blaming the conditions

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Quote: fun time frankie "What we lost because we couldn't play the conditions what part of that is not blaming the conditions'"


He's blaming the players and the teams preparation for not being good enough under those conditions, not the conditions themselves. They're the same for both teams aren't they? Radford believes the other team handled them better than us, which shows that there's more that can be done from Hull to get up to the other teams standard when playing in such conditions, it's within their control to do things better.

Not sure why you're so keen on this tbh. If you can't understand the difference then you're either a simpleton, or needlessly fishing.

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Quote: Doom&Gloom Merchant "Also, how nice is it to see Structured back posting?

Went missing after the first derby and now he's back in Derby week. He must be feeling confident for this one old Zoddy?'"


Thanks for tracking my posts, I have never been stalked before. As for any Rovers fan feeling confident, how can we, just another team of nobodies waiting to be steamrollered by the treble elect winners.

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