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Quote: fun time frankie "Burtons forearm are you seriously saying uluagia has done more today than Salter has done in two seasons are you on drugs everytime the ball went to his side his positioning was that bad they just walked in and at one point it took him that long to get back in the defensive line three tackles had gone but it seems you saw something in this world class centre performance that I missed'"

They walked in under the posts 3 times and scored on the right and made the break on the right for their second last try when Horne was on.
I would have put him on the wing. As for Salter see my other post.
Really hope Salter kicks on. Brave and held his own but terribly terribly average. No attacking skills. Cuts inside with his head down and falls to the first tackler.

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I'm not a massive Salter fan but give me a fit Salter over a player who can hardly manage 40 mins every day of the week!

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I give you Salters attack isn't great but his defence is pretty good something that we needed yesterday to say he's been here a month uluagia fitness was shocking I know he's found the nightclubs already shame he hasn't found the gym

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Quote: Burtons Forearm "Wow I missed the worst debut ever. Is that referring to Ulugia? He did more with the ball than Salter has managed in 2 seasons. He actually put his winger away down the touchline 1st half. Lots of tries down his side but didn't look his fault.
Too many players back in one go. Brown destroyed us today in his slippers.
We were dumb. Hodgson had a shocker. Took loads of wrong options. Hall.....well if I was one of our forwards I'd kill him.
Stepping into touch when he caught a kick down field was a new career high light to go with his numerous lost balls and missed touch finders from penalties.
Played terribly but should have beat a side in 5th who've won 5 on the run.
We could finish anywhere from 5th. Injuries will have a big say on who finishes where. Widnes lose Brown they're f++ked. We have a bit of cover.
Our neighbours however. I felt terrible after the game but Radford's interview on humberside had me pi##ing myself.'"
I thought we where fuxked when Joe Mellor was a longterm injury.Craven has played decent and I am looking forward to joe Mellor in a few weeks time.

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Quote: Gallanteer "But if the coach isn't supplying any decent game plans they have to make it up as the go along, which is how they looked today.'"

Must be something in the Hull air.

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For the last couple of seasons we on hear have moaned about the same thing but nothing gets done why, one minute we win 3 or 4 games then we go to pieces what is going on and when will it end icon_biggrin.gifEPRESSED:

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Quote: cravenpark1 "For the last couple of seasons we on hear have moaned about the same thing but nothing gets done why, one minute we win 3 or 4 games then we go to pieces what is going on and when will it end You are beginning to sound like a Hull fan. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: barton baird "You are beginning to sound like a Hull fan. BLOODY HELL I HOPE NOT icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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At home, in the main I've been impressed with our intensity starting games. Even though some of the performances haven't been great, our attitude and enthusiasm in the forwards has been much improved from previous CS years. However, for whatever reason we looked lethargic. I can't be d to stat this, but I seem to recall previous years where we had a week off and struggled the next match too. Green has some way to go, from impact interchange prop to starting prop. J. Walker, no surprise he’s been cited for something. Every tackle he looked like conceding a penalty. A bit of liability to me.

Ulugia, CS has to take the blame for me. Our right side looked weak all game, and that’s saying something when the opposite was Welham and Hall. It’s hard to critically evaluate his first half performance from the east stand, but his 10 minute 2nd half cameo was dreadful. I agree Salter has his attacking deficiencies, but the decision to start Ulugia with the apparent intention to change him with Horne doesn’t sit for me. You can say Ulugia needs game time, but imo it looked like he lacked general fitness not just lack of match practice. In a wider debate, I think Welham needs to seriously up his game.

I don’t think Keating / Burns partnership is fully there. Burns seems to dictate and receive more ball over Keating. For me Burns excels in scattered off the cuff plays and Keating picks up the scraps so to speak. May go some way to why some sets we look lost. I don’t think it’s any coincidence that Hodgson having an off day, resulted in the team also off. He really is the heart beat of the team. Not won over by Langley. Costigan is showing promise. But we really did look like a team that would leak points. 34 pts isn’t good enough. After positive steps fwd recently, Sunday’s result felt like a back to square one moment. Even more so, when we got ourselves into two score lead and seemingly gaining control.

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we went 2 scores up and thought it was job done, Widnes went 2 scores down and thought let's have a go at this. we turned off after the drop goal instead of turning the screw.

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We need to totally start fresh and get a new quality 1-5 to take us to the next level IMO, totally not good enough!

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Quote: ☺East-Sard☺ "At home, in the main I've been impressed with our intensity starting games. Even though some of the performances haven't been great, our attitude and enthusiasm in the forwards has been much improved from previous CS years. However, for whatever reason we looked lethargic. I can't be d to stat this, but I seem to recall previous years where we had a week off and struggled the next match too. Green has some way to go, from impact interchange prop to starting prop. J. Walker, no surprise he’s been cited for something. Every tackle he looked like conceding a penalty. A bit of liability to me.

Ulugia, CS has to take the blame for me. Our right side looked weak all game, and that’s saying something when the opposite was Welham and Hall. It’s hard to critically evaluate his first half performance from the east stand, but his 10 minute 2nd half cameo was dreadful. I agree Salter has his attacking deficiencies, but the decision to start Ulugia with the apparent intention to change him with Horne doesn’t sit for me. You can say Ulugia needs game time, but imo it looked like he lacked general fitness not just lack of match practice. In a wider debate, I think Welham needs to seriously up his game.

I don’t think Keating / Burns partnership is fully there. Burns seems to dictate and receive more ball over Keating. For me Burns excels in scattered off the cuff plays and Keating picks up the scraps so to speak. May go some way to why some sets we look lost. I don’t think it’s any coincidence that Hodgson having an off day, resulted in the team also off. He really is the heart beat of the team. Not won over by Langley. Costigan is showing promise. But we really did look like a team that would leak points. 34 pts isn’t good enough. After positive steps fwd recently, Sunday’s result felt like a back to square one moment. Even more so, when we got ourselves into two score lead and seemingly gaining control.'"


Agree on all points made!

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To be fair Ulugia looked like a player who hasn't played for a long time - but in my opinion you could see enough positives to see there is something there. He was out of position a number of times, which could be down to him playing centre when all his stats have been from playing on the wing or FB!

He did make a couple of cracking tackles and showed some good handling. Think he has shown enough to get another crack.

But if it is the intention to play him there, then it should be for the 80, not to swap with a 2nd row! But with the way both centres played, Salter must be wondering what he has to do to get another shot!

Just my opinion - but I would have Salter and Disco starting against Salford. At least they can BOTH defend, with Whelham and Hall getting the week off.

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Craig Sandercock has had some plaudits of late and rightly so.
But on Sunday he got it so so wrong, he for some reason is trying get Ulugia in the team asap? Why not send him to Gateshead to get up to speed? We all know Caro is not the finished article but to ship him off to Gateshead is ludicrous, if he is intent on getting Ulugia in the team and Caro out of it just do the straight swap?
Poor Liam Salter is the one i feel for most unless he was injured?
Liam, Gardner Burns and Larroyer have defended really well down that side.
Salter is a proper grafter, give me him over a few untouchables any day of the week.

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Quote: markylever5 "Why not send him to Gateshead to get up to speed?'"


pretty sure hes not allowed re his visa, us or nothing i think, Sandercock got a few things wrong in a week where so many bodies were playing for the 1 st time in a while and may struggle for match fitness why put a back in who is gonna need subbing due to fitness? crackers that, Salter dropped Welham keeps his spot, cant fathom that, Craig Hall cant fathom him at all. On a side note watched town v country if someone can teach Caro to jump like the Town winger he would improve as an attacking threat overnite i dont mean leap like a salmon just jump off the floor. Did anyone confirm how long a contract Sandercock got by the way? not that im worried bout a bad run like last year

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