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| On Sunday I suggest the biggest 'matty matty cook' chant ever to make a point to our coach.
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| Quote: Roofs "On Sunday I suggest the biggest 'matty matty cook' chant ever to make a point to our coach.
He would just say ...While iam in the seat. thats my choice.
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| Been thinking about this a bit and tried to evaluate this from JM's point of view. So thinking what if -
Say that its true what a few people are saying that Matt Cook said in the bar after the match, he asked to be brought off after his 15 min spell in the 2nd half. Then I can see why JM isn't picking him week in week out. Yes he plays well when he comes on but 15mins a half is very poor for a 2nd rower, in fact I'd say its unacceptable for a player of Cooks age.
I'm expecting a barrage of replies saying he doesn't get game time to improve fitess but surely playing in the U20's is game time to improve general fitness.
Also if he is asking to come off is that letting the rest of the team down, shouldn;t he play until he's dead on his feet, insist on being kept on the pitch, not asking to come off.
So MAYBE JM has told him to work on his fitness, get more minutes in but he just isn't cutting it?
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| Quote: barham red "Been thinking about this a bit and tried to evaluate this from JM's point of view. So thinking what if -
Say that its true what a few people are saying that Matt Cook said in the bar after the match, he asked to be brought off after his 15 min spell in the 2nd half. Then I can see why JM isn't picking him week in week out. Yes he plays well when he comes on but 15mins a half is very poor for a 2nd rower, in fact I'd say its unacceptable for a player of Cooks age.
I'm expecting a barrage of replies saying he doesn't get game time to improve fitess but surely playing in the U20's is game time to improve general fitness.
Also if he is asking to come off is that letting the rest of the team down, shouldn;t he play until he's dead on his feet, insist on being kept on the pitch, not asking to come off.
So MAYBE JM has told him to work on his fitness, get more minutes in but he just isn't cutting it?'"
....and the award for the most ridiculous post of the year goes to............
What complete tosh!!!
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| Quote: barham red "Been thinking about this a bit and tried to evaluate this from JM's point of view. So thinking what if -
Say that its true what a few people are saying that Matt Cook said in the bar after the match, he asked to be brought off after his 15 min spell in the 2nd half. Then I can see why JM isn't picking him week in week out. Yes he plays well when he comes on but 15mins a half is very poor for a 2nd rower, in fact I'd say its unacceptable for a player of Cooks age.
I'm expecting a barrage of replies saying he doesn't get game time to improve fitess but surely playing in the U20's is game time to improve general fitness.
Also if he is asking to come off is that letting the rest of the team down, shouldn;t he play until he's dead on his feet, insist on being kept on the pitch, not asking to come off.
So MAYBE JM has told him to work on his fitness, get more minutes in but he just isn't cutting it?'"
Possible mate, but my guess would be:
1. He's English, not Australian
2. He's not really ar$ed about poker
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| Quote: redandy "He would just say ...While iam in the seat. thats my choice.'"
I'm so biased I'd make Cook player-coach.
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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "....and the award for the most ridiculous post of the year goes to............
Ok then talker of complete sense, give me your view.
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| Quote: Roofs "Possible mate, but my guess would be:
1. He's English, not Australian
2. He's not really ar$ed about poker
The problem with 1. is that neither are Scott Murrell or Jason Netherton whom many on here lambast and yet are ever presents.
2. Ben Cockayne liked a bit of poker (and again was English and picked) and he's now been sacked.
Apart from those minor oversights your points are valid.
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| Imo jm has his favourites and matt cook isn't one of them even if he scored a hatful of tries he still wouldn't get a chance. I've supported jm in every thing he's done. but now I no longer have confidence in jm as coach.
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| Quote: barham red "Been thinking about this a bit and tried to evaluate this from JM's point of view. So thinking what if -
Say that its true what a few people are saying that Matt Cook said in the bar after the match, he asked to be brought off after his 15 min spell in the 2nd half. Then I can see why JM isn't picking him week in week out. Yes he plays well when he comes on but 15mins a half is very poor for a 2nd rower, in fact I'd say its unacceptable for a player of Cooks age.
I'm expecting a barrage of replies saying he doesn't get game time to improve fitess but surely playing in the U20's is game time to improve general fitness.
Also if he is asking to come off is that letting the rest of the team down, shouldn;t he play until he's dead on his feet, insist on being kept on the pitch, not asking to come off.
So MAYBE JM has told him to work on his fitness, get more minutes in but he just isn't cutting it?'"
I don't think fitness is an issue for Matt Cook and he could probably play the full 80 minutes if he had to. I don't know what he said in the bar after the game but Matt Cook did definitely not want to come off after he scored the try that effectively won Rovers the game. He was clearly buzzing when he scored but showed negative body language when he came off and trudged along the touchline as if he had no interest at all.
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| Quote: raynor the crab "I don't think fitness is an issue for Matt Cook and he could probably play the full 80 minutes if he had to. I don't know what he said in the bar after the game but Matt Cook did definitely not want to come off after he scored the try that effectively won Rovers the game. He was clearly buzzing when he scored but showed negative body language when he came off and trudged along the touchline as if he had no interest at all.'"
Its been quoted on the 'other' forum that he was asked if he was angry at being subbed and he repled that in fairness he had asked to come off as he was struggling. Now I know how unreliable these types of quotes are but I my post was playing devils advocate to put across another POV. Obviously Mr Gekko thinks that POV's aren't allowed, maybe thats why he never has any.
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| I'd be amazed if he asked to come off because he was struggling.
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| Quote: raynor the crab "I'd be amazed if he asked to come off because he was struggling.'"
I would too,
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| Quote: raynor the crab "I'd be amazed if he asked to come off because he was struggling.'"
Ditto.
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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "Ditto.'"
He didnt look to be struggling when he was flying towards the try line did he..
My biggest concern though is if indeed Cook was likely to be struggling due to a lack of game-time recently, why on earth did we have a 13 stone winger as our back row option on the bench?
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