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BLACK AND WHITES
East is East,West is West,
and never the twain shall meet.
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"I" said the sparrow "With my bow and arrow.":33934.gif |
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| Quote: Rupert Pupkin "Not a thing to worry about!'"
Unusual for a Rovers supporter.  |
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is HULL KINGSTON ROVERS FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED the official name for the club?
they are showing as still being within a Voluntary Arrangement dating back 5 years this can't be true can it?
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HULL KINGSTON ROVERS is my religion, Craven Park is my church and Jordan Abdull is my God: |
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7100 as a core support nowadays?
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[quote="Adeybull"] so the panel took the same view as your excellent assessment.[/quote]:44595.jpg |
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7103 wasnt it?
Not like we can say the extra 3 were Les Cats fans either!
not bad at all compared to about 2k afew years back!
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Barnacle Bill "Those are the criteria for this round of licensing. That is what the RFL stated when licensing was introduced, they were to be used this time round.
The licenses awarded last time were based on (in theory) similar criteria but it was not the transparent process it is supposed to be now.'"
Bill it wasnt, isnt and never will be.
In fact it would be ridiculous to have a tick box system, especially considering there has been no weighting. |
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Bertie "No worries whatsoever.
The only ones who could be affected are those who received warning letters a few months ago from the RFL.'"
that was just for stadia |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Bill it wasnt, isnt and never will be.
In fact it would be ridiculous to have a tick box system, especially considering there has been no weighting.'"
Tell that to the RFLhttp://www.therfl.co.uk/clientdocs/Operational%20Rules%20Part%201.pdfrl
Or how about this?
"The licence application process was handled by the RFL's staff and took place in three stagesthe clubs were then divided into three categories, A, B and C based on a simple points system; and finally each club underwent a detailed analysis of their structure and business plan, the results of which were compiled in individual reports submitted to the RFL board for consideration.
"The basis for the licensing process was established in May 2005 when the RFL, in full consultation with member clubs, drew up a strategy document for Super League which basically said ' This is what we want the league to look like and this is what we want the clubs to look like,'" explained Findlay." available herehttp://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/rugby-league/RFL-boss-praises-clubs-for.4302787.jprl
This is what we want the clubs to look like? Sounds to me like there's a checklist of criteria that the RFL want clubs to meet a "tick box system" if you will.  |
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Barnacle Bill "Tell that to the RFLhttp://www.therfl.co.uk/clientdocs/Operational%20Rules%20Part%201.pdfrl
Or how about this?
"The licence application process was handled by the RFL's staff and took place in three stagesthe clubs were then divided into three categories, A, B and C based on a simple points system; and finally each club underwent a detailed analysis of their structure and business plan, the results of which were compiled in individual reports submitted to the RFL board for consideration.
"The basis for the licensing process was established in May 2005 when the RFL, in full consultation with member clubs, drew up a strategy document for Super League which basically said 'This is what we want the league to look like and this is what we want the clubs to look like,'" explained Findlay." available herehttp://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/rugby-league/RFL-boss-praises-clubs-for.4302787.jprl
This is what we want the clubs to look like? Sounds to me like there's a checklist of criteria that the RFL want clubs to meet a "tick box system" if you will. 
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Bertie "Leeds must have found winning form, their forum fool is back ![]()
then this is the Hull KR forum so the lack of knowledge doesnt surprise!
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| Quote: Barnacle Bill "Tell that to the RFLhttp://www.therfl.co.uk/clientdocs/Operational%20Rules%20Part%201.pdfrl
Or how about this?
"The licence application process was handled by the RFL's staff and took place in three stagesthe clubs were then divided into three categories, A, B and C based on a simple points system; and finally each club underwent a detailed analysis of their structure and business plan, the results of which were compiled in individual reports submitted to the RFL board for consideration.
"The basis for the licensing process was established in May 2005 when the RFL, in full consultation with member clubs, drew up a strategy document for Super League which basically said 'This is what we want the league to look like and this is what we want the clubs to look like,'" explained Findlay." available herehttp://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/rugby-league/RFL-boss-praises-clubs-for.4302787.jprl
This is what we want the clubs to look like? Sounds to me like there's a checklist of criteria that the RFL want clubs to meet a "tick box system" if you will. ![]()
There was a published list of criteria for the last round, which it sounds to me formed the basis of the license grade. I also expect there was some latitude on certain points, as I don't think we got visibility on how many and which points each club scored.
I'm not sure how you can be sure that the same criteria will be used next time round, though, this is the RFL after all. I'm sure they said last time round that A and B clubs would not undergo as much rigorous scrutiny next time as you can only move one ranking category from last time. C clubs on the other hand would be under pressure to deliver on improvement promises, which Rovers have done on a lot of fronts anyway. No way Rovers won't get a franchise.
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| Quote: Bertie "Leeds must have found winning form, their forum fool is back ![]()
Talking about forums...your board is empty, wonder why
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "There was a published list of criteria for the last round, which it sounds to me formed the basis of the license grade. I also expect there was some latitude on certain points, as I don't think we got visibility on how many and which points each club scored.
I'm not sure how you can be sure that the same criteria will be used next time round, though, this is the RFL after all. I'm sure they said last time round that A and B clubs would not undergo as much rigorous scrutiny next time as you can only move one ranking category from last time. C clubs on the other hand would be under pressure to deliver on improvement promises, which Rovers have done on a lot of fronts anyway. No way Rovers won't get a franchise.'"
I'm certain that the 10 point criteria was to be applied to bids this time around (2012) and was not in fact used as such in 2009 although clubs were assessed in four broad areas of their respective businesses and covering similar areas in general.
What bothers me is that there have been recent references to revised/different criteria for 2012 which seems a bit late in the day now since presumably clubs will have been aiming to rack up as many points as possible under the previously published requirements and yes, this is the RFL so nothing can be taken for granted. |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "you might want to read the little bit after where you have put a little bit in bold big guy.
you know that bit which says [ieach club underwent a detailed analysis of their structure and business plan, the results of which were compiled in individual reports submitted to the RFL board for consideration.[/i
now i dont know about you, i havent spent as much time in that sea air, but to me, i would find it strange that they would go to all the effort of producing a report on which a qualitative judgement was to be made, making that qualitative judgement and everyone abiding by that qualitative judgement if it was simply a tick box system.
Do you find it strange at all Bill? Do you think there may be a reason for them doing that? Maybe the criteria being used to group the clubs only? and outside of that grouping being irrelevant?
let us in on it big fella--Why oh why oh why did the RFL come up with this criteria, tick the boxes, find out who ticked what boxes, then go on to commission a qualitative report, consider that report and include qualitative judgements in their justification for their decision, but NOT use it for their decision, which was of course made for them by the ticked boxes?'"
Maybe, just maybe, even the RFL couldn't just take the clubs at their word and required some sort of evidence to substantiate the boxes ticked...maybe?  |
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Barnacle Bill "Maybe, just maybe, even the RFL couldn't just take the clubs at their word and required some sort of evidence to substantiate the boxes ticked...maybe? ![]()
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