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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "Think you'll find if a club went into liquidation all players become free agents. It is complete tosh to value players even more so to increase their value after two terrible seasons
All true, but FC have been doing it for at least 6 years with no apparent effect on anything. As we kinda concluded last time this was discussed, as cunning plans go it's right up there with Baldrick's best.
They're fooling no-one with even the faintest inkling of business or accountancy, and it all seems rather pointless.
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6505_1460484023.jpg [i:10za56ci]Hold on to me baby, his bony hands will do you no harm
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| Quote: WormInHand "Tosh yourself. Administrators would sell off players pending liquidation in order to recoup as much as possible for the creditors. As well you know.'"
Players are employees, not assets. Their contracts would become null and void if FC were to be liquidated, just like any other employee. The Administrator would have a hard time selling players that would become free agents if clubs just waited a few weeks. And even if they somehow managed to con some clubs into paying for a free resource, the valuations achieved would bear no relation to the figures given in the accounts.
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| Quote: Kosh "Players are employees, not assets. Their contracts would become null and void if FC were to be liquidated, just like any other employee. The Administrator would have a hard time selling players that would become free agents if clubs just waited a few weeks. And even if they somehow managed to con some clubs into paying for a free resource, the valuations achieved would bear no relation to the figures given in the accounts.'"
Their value while the club is solvent is an asset, though. A club does not need to be in administration for this figure to become of interest. Kath has reputedly had the club up for sale on and off over the last few years - any buyer or investor would want to know the amount they could expect to get if any of the playing staff were transferred during their contracts.
So why do you think Hull include it?
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| Quote: WormInHand "Their value while the club is solvent is an asset, though. A club does not need to be in administration for this figure to become of interest. Kath has reputedly had the club up for sale on and off over the last few years - any buyer or investor would want to know the amount they could expect to get if any of the playing staff were transferred during their contracts.
So why do you think Hull include it?'"
More to the point why do they consistently go against their own accountants advice, why bother employing them if Hull fc know best.
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| Trying to get back on topic I find it strange that the publication of Rovers accounts has not been mentioned in the Hull Daily Mail or on Radio Humberside sports news. Has Hudge got to them? Was the subject raised on Sportstalk last night?
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fonds blancs/Sid.gif I have lost interest:fonds blancs/Sid.gif |
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| No mention of a/cs in Wednesday's Mail either , not heard sportstalk though
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| Quote: Nobeerineasthull "Trying to get back on topic I find it strange that the publication of Rovers accounts has not been mentioned in the Hull Daily Mail or on Radio Humberside sports news. Has Hudge got to them? Was the subject raised on Sportstalk last night?'"
Maybe they didn't think it newsworthy or sport? I know this has come to be seen as something of huge import in certain quarters, but 'business (finally ) submits accounts' or 'Rovers running at a roughly League-average loss during period of rapid development' are not startling headlines. As has been shown on this board, with varying degrees of success, a more negative spin can be put on it. However, HDM and RH journalists won't necessarily share the worldview of a group of very committed (including a couple who probably should be committed ) Hull Trolls. The media's failure to follow the troll's agenda is either a dark conspiracy or a reflection of how mad certain obsessions have become - I look forward to finding out which it is in Wilf's diary.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "Maybe they didn't think it newsworthy or sport? I know this has come to be seen as something of huge import in certain quarters, but 'business (finally
Maybe Rovers should introduce player valuations to their balance sheet, that would make them look much better than they really are. I'm sure if Hull can value theirs at £942,500 Rovers can value theirs at maybe £1,545,348
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| Quote: Mild Rover "Maybe they didn't think it newsworthy or sport? I know this has come to be seen as something of huge import in certain quarters, but 'business (finally
Both organisations have been keen enough in the past to comment on both Hull FC's and Hull City's accounts. Were they not either newsworthy or sport?
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6505_1460484023.jpg [i:10za56ci]Hold on to me baby, his bony hands will do you no harm
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| Quote: WormInHand "Their value while the club is solvent is an asset, though. A club does not need to be in administration for this figure to become of interest. Kath has reputedly had the club up for sale on and off over the last few years - any buyer or investor would want to know the amount they could expect to get if any of the playing staff were transferred during their contracts.
So why do you think Hull include it?'"
I think they include it in order to try and artificially inflate the value of the club for potential purchasers. I also think that's a forlorn hope as anyone with an ounce of sense will see straight through that particular ploy.
Players are not assets in any normally-accepted sense of the word. Which is why it's against normal accounting practice to include them as such. Harmless, but ultimately pointless.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Filed With Companies House at last
have you sent this type of info to the other 11 teams that posted a loss? or are you just obsessed with our accounts?
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icons42da_files/5424-2890lipst1ck_d0rk-msnicons.jpg THANK YOU Mr. PEARSON, FOR RIDDING US OF FCKWIT FUBAR, CEO TOOL AND THE STINKING UNCLE KATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHY DON'T THE DOBBINS PLAY IN GREEN SHIRT, GREEN SHORTS AND GREEN SOCKS IN ORDER TO EXPRESS THEIR INFINITE ENVY OF EVERYTHING BLACK AND WHITE??:icons42da_files/5424-2890lipst1ck_d0rk-msnicons.jpg |
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| Quote: thehullwhitestar " Your horrible and obsessed little man has put your club's future in jeapordy for a couple of very short term gains and no amount of lamenting our stellar financial performance of the last 6 years will change anything.
Get over it !!
Or, put another way, our Chairman has overseen a rise from mid-table in the NFP, with average gates around 1,800, to the top 4 of SL with 8,500 punters.
Nice to know how much Neil gets under your skin!
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