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Quote: Gavin Miller - Legend "We are in the early stages of building Hull KR into being a team challenging at the top of the SL.'"


Agree.

It's going to take 4/5 years to build a team capable of consistantly challenging for the top 6/4.
Our main priority is to get to a level were we can have the full salary cap, it's essential! To get to this level and challenge for honours at the same time needs a bigger fan base than what we currently have. The number of fans that have been to home games this season has been well above the level expected pre-season. But it's like the team, we need to keep pulling the extra fans in. Hopefully in a few years time we can attract a 9/10k average.

But attracting fans to come we need a winning team!
It is going to be sad to lose some of the players that have got us into SL, but it is essential that we move forward. So, some of these players will have to leave the club in order for us to progress, eventually. Morgan needs to bring in better players than what we already have.

I think we have two very talented FB's at the club in Cockayne and Goddard, who I believe will both progress given the chance. I am happy to see any of them playing at FB, even though Charlie has just had a bad patch.

I like Steel, pacey, good defender and runs hard and straight. An addition of a big strong winger is possibly needed, even though I would be very happy if Hodgson (Salford) became available.

IMO we do need 2 quality centre's if we want to be challenging for top honours. Dyer is doing a good job at the moment, as is Goddard even though he has not got that many try's. I would love to see Craig Hall as it looks as he has bags of potential, hopefully his Dad wants him at the Robins aswell.

I am happy with our H/B's Webster, Cooke and Murrell as support. But possibly in the future, a running O/H with Cooke going to L/M.

We do need some big powerfull forwards in the mould of a Ruben Wiki type player. Vella is a star, plus Macca needs an extended contract, he will keep on improving.

I like Fish, he is developing into a good SL hooker, not sure though yet if Lennon is the quality we need.

Agree with alot of you, we do need a bruising, big, strong and physical S/R, to complement a hardworker. I dont think Fitzgibbon is the answer, yes he has lots of rep honours and bags of experience, but I just believe his best years have past. He would make a decent prop though.

This is all for the future and what I think we will need to become a to4/6 club.

I am very happy at the moment with the way our team is progressing under Morgan. SL status is a must, I would dread to think what would happen if we failed to stay up this season!

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thing is, signing a class act like vella will help when it comes to future overseas signings. i hear what you say about fitzgibbon, and thats probably true, i think youve got to look at players like shane tronc at the cowboys, he ticks all the right boxes and his best years are still ahead of him.

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Quote: Next Best Thing "People say we need blockbusting this, blockbusting that but to be honest, we don't!Our forwards may not have broken the line but they always make yards over the advantage line.
They have set the platform so far this season to notch the points but our finishing has been under par.

IMO with two big three-quarters like Yeaman and Senior we would finish out wide more often. If you actually watch our games, notice how often we take the ball on our 20 metre line and make their 20 by tackle 4!
We play a territorial game rather than chance our arm like Leeds or St Helens. The only thing we lack is power in the centres.

And in comment about Fitzgibbon, he's continually performed in the NRL and at International level. Overrated??? Well tell that to the Aussie coaches who continued to pick him time after time. Don't tell me it was for his kicking when Andrew Johns was on the park.

Netherton or Fitzgibbon??? I know which one i'd pick and it's not because i think Netherton is poor, it's because of the talent Fitzgibbon has.

It's like saying Iestyn Harris is rubbish, well, he's not! Look at him play, he's in Super League and at the top end. Iestyn may not have performed for GB but he's far from rubbish or overrated.'"


Our current league position and points for say's different.

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Full Backs

Cockayne
Hardman

Wingers

Steel
Ford
Hodgson
?

Centres

Goddard
Bauer
Hall
Yeaman

Half Backs

Cooke
Murrell
Webster

Props

Vella
Aizue
Tangata-Toa
Ward
Korkidas/Fozzard

Hookers

Fisher
Lennon

Second Row

O'Neill
Chester
Netherton
Fitzgibbon/Hindmarsh

Loose Man

Gene
Wing

Also keep Wilson and K Netherton aswell

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You need to sign Jesus to go alongside Judas in the halves.
Samsun and Goliath in the pack.

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Quote: Next Best Thing "FULL BACKS

BEN COCKAYNE Not good enough, top 6 you need a top class FB, Cockayne isnt and will never be the Class of Webb, Wellens, Mclinden, Reardon, or even Platt
SCOTT MURRELL Not good enough at SL level in his best position, why would he be in a position he never excelled at

WINGERS

JON STEEL Not Good enough
IAN HARDMAN (ST HELENS) not Good enough
LUKE DYER has already proved he isnt good enough
CRAIG HALL (HULL FC) still young and you cant base your attack on a young winger

THREE-QUARTERS

KIRK YEAMAN (HULL FC) Class but doubt you will get him
JON GODDARD Average but would be adequate with a great wing partner or a great centre opposite
ANDREAS BAUER not good enough
KEITH SENIOR (LEEDS RHINOS) was a Great 3 years ago, now average, not even the best centre at Leeds and will be playing second row next season most probably

HALF-BACKS

PAUL COOKE Good enough but not as good as he is made out, needs quality backs to be able to do anything, will never break the line and needs a halfback partner who will complement him by being a line breaker
JAMES WEBSTER, seems adequate but not really the type of player who will bring the best out of Cooke

PROP FORWARDS

MAKALI AIZUE Distinctly average
MICHAEL VELLA Very good
DAVID TANGATA TOA Very average
DANNY WARD Rightly sacked by Leeds, shouldnt have played again, has gone down hill from when he was at Leeds and even then he was only a workhorse and not a star player
STEVE SNITCH (HUDDERSFIELD GIANTS) why would you pick Steve Snitch of all players, average at best

HOOKERS

BEN FISHER OK, probably comparable to Diskin, nowhere near Drew, Cunningham, Roby or Newton though
MARK LENNON as above but not as good as Diskin

SECOND ROWERS

MARK O'NEILL Is 2 games a season worth a quota spot, has he gone travelling round europe again yet
CHRIS CHESTER decent player, Injury plagued though
JASON NETHERTON Not good enough
IAIN MORRISON not good enough
CRAIG FITZGIBBON (SYDNEY CITY ROOSTERS) would be a good signing, other than you will have to pay him more than he is worth to get him over here
DANNY HILL (WIGAN WARRIORS) Average, cant get into a Wigan Pack, which has no cover whatsoever

LOCK FORWARD

TOMMY GALLAGHER Should be moved forward to Prop, i wish good things for Tommy cos he is a very nice guy but he isnt a top 6 SL quality Lock
STANLEY GENE you cant build around Stanley Gene he is at least 103 and cant play forever
OUT if you want to be top six there will need to be a lot more going out than that'"


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ANDREAS BAUER not good enough

4 tries in 6 games and a very good defense may suggest otherwise!

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Quote: JackoTheRed "ANDREAS BAUER not good enough

4 tries in 6 games and a very good defense may suggest otherwise!'"


Looks a good player to me aswell! someone earlier reckons he hasn't been training to well lately and thats the reason he hasn't been getting a game recently. Needs more game time, especially as Ford seems to be out of form at the moment.

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Agree!

Would like to see Bauer replace Ford at the moment. If it is the case that he hasnt been training well then i hope he knuckles down quickly, i rate this guy alot!

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Quote: Rupert Pupkin "Looks a good player to me aswell! someone earlier reckons he hasn't been training to well lately and thats the reason he hasn't been getting a game recently. Needs more game time, especially as Ford seems to be out of form at the moment.'"


Yep, he's been rubbish in his one game back from injury! icon_rolleyes.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: GJB "Yep, he's been rubbish in his one game back from injury!
Ford has been making plenty of mistakes in recent games especially the game at MM, and I am a big fan of the Major of Flair!

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Quote: JackoTheRed "ANDREAS BAUER not good enough

4 tries in 6 games and a very good defense may suggest otherwise!'"


wow 6 whole games at first grade level at the age of 24

Bauer not as good as

harris
hape
evans
wilson
mogg
pelo
bosc
sykes
loleesi
elford
yeaman
domic
toopi
gibson
senior
moule
wilshere
talau
gidley
atkins
gleeson
johnson
bailey
vaealiki

24 better in this league

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FFS Smokey, what do you expect in our first season in SL? We are trying to build for the future, we have alot of players in which this is their first season in SL. Whoever is promoted from NL1 are way behind teams in SL in terms of recruitment. You can, but I think it's a little early to be judging players with only half a SL seasons experience in them.

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Quote: Rupert Pupkin "FFS Smokey, what do you expect in our first season in SL? We are trying to build for the future, we have alot of players in which this is their first season in SL. Whoever is promoted from NL1 are way behind teams in SL in terms of recruitment. You can, but I think it's a little early to be judging players with only half a SL seasons experience in them.'"


Is this thread about what you needed to be top 6 or not
Bauer isnt good enough for top 6

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Not often I agree with B&W's but to be a top 6 side we need to change a good 60% of our squad. Too many people treat the players at this club at a level way above what they actually are.

If JM was given cart blanche to sign a squad within a full salary cap, he would probably keep no more than half a dozen of the current squad. He built a squad to get us out of NL1 and to be the nucleus of a squad to KEEP US UP and to do this he has had to bring in several players that were 'available' but probably not his first choice. If we do stay up we are going to have to recruit heavily for next season as ALL the other clubs will be as well.

Next years recruitment will be key to survival again as it will be at least 5 yrs before we can hope to challenge for a top 6 place.

JM said in an interview before the season started that his three year plan was to survive, consolidate and challenge. I think it will be survive, survive and franchise, then we can look at pushing on.

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