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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "I cannot believe you used that to back up your argument ![]()
It gets trotted out week in/out on here, anyone would think it's some kind of major award 
FWIW I think Convict makes some good points, however I do think he has been a bit harsh on Dobson. I am not a big fan of Dobson but he has done well for Rovers, whether or not he is worth the money he is on I don't know. The thing is when it comes to halfbacks its more important to have the right combination and Cooke/Dobson seem to be getting better together.
Also I would be surprsied to see Diskin leave Leeds, especially with his Testimonial looming.
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| Quote: PAUL M "It gets trotted out week in/out on here, anyone would think it's some kind of major award ![]()
Dobson has been outstanding for most of the season and he is still learning his trade so can only get better. The Albert Goldthorpe medal this is just a joke. Mike Sterriker gives Dobbo max points every week no matter how he plays
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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "Dobson has been outstanding for most of the season and he is still learning his trade so can only get better. The Albert Goldthorpe medal this is just a joke. Mike Sterriker gives Dobbo max points every week no matter how he plays ![]()
Good bloke is Mike and has been an RL journalist for well over 20 years so he's well qualified to validate Dobson's class... 
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| Quote: General Zod. "Good bloke is Mike and has been an RL journalist for well over 20 years so he's well qualified to validate Dobson's class... ![]()
I've followed the game for over 35 years so i believe i'm well qualified to validate a players ability as well. 
The Albert Goldthorpe Medal is farcical.
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| The Goldthorpe Medal shouldn't be taken too seriously I admit - you only have to look at the preponderance of halfbacks in the top 20 to see that. Still, I'd say it is no more of a joke than Man of Steel has become.
Rugby League isn't a particularly complicated game. Even the slightly more nuanced (:lolicon_smile.gif elements are fairly easy to pick up. I'm even learning some of the jargon off Cullen on BnA - upstream and mini pendulum are my current favourites. 
We all think are own opinions are the best - otherwise we'd change them. |
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "I'm sure there are some old Tommy Lee slagoffathon threads on here somewhere. Might pass some time on the long winter nights dredging them up. ![]()
Dregde this one up then.
The guys and IMO would be a backward step for Rovers.
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| Quote: Easty "Dregde this one up then.
The guys poop and IMO would be a backward step for Rovers.'"
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| Quote: Convict 99 "i would think last Saturday proved to anyone with RL knowledge that Berrigan (the australian international hooker and centre ) is a better scrum half than Dobson'"
Better player? Yes. Better scrum half? No way!
I don't think you'll even get many Hull fans agreeing with that.
Quote: Convict 99 "i would also say that anyone who thinks he is better than (and more importantly better value for money than) Sherwin, Eastmond, Long, Briers, Burrow, Brough, Myler , Orr and Robinson is deluded..'"
How'd you work that one out then? Sherwin is likely to be on at least as much, if not more than Dobson, and he's been plagued by injury and fitness issues.  |
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| Quote: Convict 99 " i would also say that anyone who thinks he is better than (and more importantly better value for money than) Sherwin, Eastmond, Long, Briers, Burrow, Brough, Myler , Orr and Robinson is deluded..'"
Id say he is better value for money than Long, I dont rate Robinson at all and Orr is nothing special although wont be on bog wages i wouldnt have thought. Cant argue with the others too much, but Eastmond has played 6 games in SL (i think) and you think he is better than Dobson. Seems you are a bit negative tbh, but im sure you will respond by saying you're "just a realist" |
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There's a thing called the salary cap convict which dictates most stuff...
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| Quote: Convict 99 "i would think last Saturday proved to anyone with RL knowledge that Berrigan (the australian international hooker and centre ) is a better scrum half than Dobson,
i would also say that anyone who thinks he is better than (and more importantly better value for money than) Sherwin, Eastmond, Long, Briers, Burrow, Brough, Myler , Orr and Robinson is deluded..'"
Brent Sherwin-Previously brilliant player, well past best.
Sean Long- See Brent Sherwin
Lee Briers- Can't tackle and injured a lot
Danny Orr-Had his best days 7/8 years ago
Luke Robinson-Good young player but does not have an all round game but getting better |
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| Quote: EL CAMO "Quote: EL CAMO "i would think last Saturday proved to anyone with RL knowledge that Berrigan (the australian international hooker and centre ) is a better scrum half than Dobson,
i would also say that anyone who thinks he is better than (and more importantly better value for money than) Sherwin, Eastmond, Long, Briers, Burrow, Brough, Myler , Orr and Robinson is deluded..'"
Brent Sherwin-Previously brilliant player, well past best.
Sean Long- See Brent Sherwin
Lee Briers- Can't tackle and injured a lotDanny Orr-Had his best days 7/8 years ago
Luke Robinson-Good young player but does not have an all round game but getting better'"'"
Nor can Dobbo, he is in the top 5 for missed tackles, an area which he needs to improve to be in the same league as Sherwin & Long have been.
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "Quote: berrigans bitch "
Nor can Dobbo, he is in the top 5 for missed tackles, an area which he needs to improve to be in the same league as Sherwin & Long have been.'" '"
Missed tackles are often thougght to not reflect tackling ability as a lot of players are more willing to attempt lost causes which makes for a higher mised tackle count.
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "
Nor can Dobbo, he is in the top 5 for missed tackles, an area which he needs to improve to be in the same league as Sherwin & Long have been.'"
That's a poor way of looking at defensive ability. For example:
In 16 appearances this year, Long has made 166 tackles and missed 37. That means he's missed ~18% of tackles "attempted".
In 23 appearances this year, Dobson has made 318 tackles and missed 68. That means he's missed ~17% of tackles "attempted".
Stats are stats, but there are so many different ways of looking at them. I agree Dobson's defence needs to improve but that's based on watching him week in, week out.
Scott Murrell is top of both "Tackles" and "Missed Tackles", but I know his defence is excellent. |
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