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| Quote: Gavin Miller - Legend "Blah Blah.
So tackle busts averages based on actual time spent on the field are what then.
Its a simple enough request ![]()
You had a strop with the absolute numbers and demanded a per game number. I provided one which showed Dowes' supremacy. You tried to exclude Watts on the basis of position, which made you look more of an @rse because some backrowers can do 90+ a season. You're now asking for another set of measures which I don't even have the data to calculate. It's unlikely that Dowes would be trailing far behind this group of Rovers props as you imply, since he played 11 games off the bench, but I can see why you might want to try this as your other attempts to justify your mocking of Dowes tacklebusting have fallen sadly flat.
Face facts. He's actually not as cr@p as you'd like us to believe. It irks you that I've given you some stats to suggest he doesn't lag behind all Rovers props, even superstars Clinton and Watts, and has more tackle busts in absolute terms and per game than them, and Wheeldon, and Netherton. This is all the more astonishing when you consider his tackles + marker tackles were 741, compared to Clinton 541, Netherton 577, Watts 715 and Wheeldon 460. Big engine for Dowesy, then. 
Fortunately, however, I do have the 2009 stats, which, amazingly, show the same picture (number of tackle busts and per game):
Dowes 25 1.14
Aizue 16 1.07
Vella 14 0.93
Netherton 12 0.60
Fozzard 11 0.55
In the context of tackles made (absolute and per game), it's quite extraordinary that he performs so well in both. Massive engine. Well done Dowesy 
Dowes 781 35.5
Fozzard 574 28.7
Netherton 558 27.9
Vella 355 23.7
Aizue 216 14.4
The irony of you trying to hold someone to account given my sig is utterly delicious. 
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "You had a strop with the absolute numbers and demanded a per game number.
Did i ![]()
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| Quote: Gavin Miller - Legend "
Did i
Where did i demand anything I said he had played more games then 3 of the 4 players you stated which was factually correct
And adjusting for the number of games, Dowes is the best.
Dowes is and out and out prop whose breif will be run directly into the opposition defence and smash through it if possible.
Watts as an example is one of the best off loading forwards in the SL now.
Wheeldon is the best prop at Rovers for finding his front and getting a quick play the ball something Dowes doesnt have in his game.
As for supremacy, you should have played him in the play off game then and your season might have been prolonged
All very interesting, and probably true, but you specifically slated Dowes in his ability to break tackles. I'd guess this was Fozzard's and Vella's brief in 2009 (see the stats for 2009 above), but Dowes delivered far better.
Which without actual facts is just your opinion. Pay for the Opta stats, you like being sad and going onto websites and paying for information if you think it suits your needs as has been proved with clubs accounts
No thanks, I've spent quite enough this weekend in Hull FC's rather excellent shop, full of stock and geared up for the key Christmas trading period.
Face Facts, if you hadnt missed on on targets he would be an ex Hull FC player by now.
Correct, I'd rather have Fielden or LMS, that's hardly startling, is it? Not like we were desperately disappointed like Morgan was to miss out on key target Radford. ![]()
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Give it a rest FFS!!!
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| Quote: bob bob bobin robin "Give it a rest FFS!!!'"
Someone has to defend Dowes against this entirely unprovoked mockery, particularly when there's absolutely no evidence to back it up.  |
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| Still no minutes on the field comparison though but granted it would be a ball ache to find out but i had to put it to the test. 
Fozzard was poor hence his departure and Vella was injury hit in 2009
Christmas colours are Red and White BTW
Morgan's response to Radford resigning for Hull was Que Sera Sera so not as disapointing as you hoped.
Wheeldon = Younger, more aggressive and his performances at the back end of last season were very good whilst the Dowes warmed his in the stands and as you state is 5th chioce at Hull now |
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Someone has to defend Dowes against this entirely unprovoked mockery, particularly when there's absolutely no evidence to back it up. ![]()
Couldn't give a poop Mrs B, it's just getting tedious for the rest of us that's all!
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| Quote: Gavin Miller - Legend "Still no minutes on the field comparison though but granted it would be a ball ache to find out but i had to put it to the test.
I want Dowes in your 17 now, after such a defense of him surely you do too to prove me wrong
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| Quote: Gavin Miller - Legend "Unless you provide a comparison based on minutes played your wasting your tackle busting comparisons on me.
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How convenient, you never mentioned this per minute ratio at all until it was shown that per game Dowes was better than all those Rovers props.
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Dowes will be in our 17. It's not ideal, but there we are. At least we know that slating his tackle-busting credentials is foolish in the context of what other props deliver.  |
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "How convenient, you never mentioned this per minute ratio at all until it was shown that per game Dowes was better than all those Rovers props.
Per Game is not proof at all.
Clinton played short minutes on his debut as mentioned and minutes on the field is the only conclusive proof of whose stats were better.
Minutes played could total and extra game which means your system is flawed.
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Blimey,powerpoint presentations on RL Fans are just around the corner then
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i almost forgot that the thread was about david mills, after mrs b waffling about dowes for 3 pages, nothing new there then, come on mods, don't get into a silly argument with mrs b just keep in on topic!
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