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| Quote ="barton baird"I reckon the game is videod, then certain frames taken out.
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You've got me!!
I would just add this is probably the longest one of these threads has gone on, normally on here it doesn't provoke such discusssion, perhaps it coincides with me no longer posting them on the unofficial forum.
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| Quote ="RoversTrace"You've got me!!
I would just add this is probably the longest one of these threads has gone on, normally on here it doesn't provoke such discusssion, perhaps it coincides with me no longer posting them on the unofficial forum.'"
You said it all when you said it was a hobby. A hobby is an enjoyable past time,so you shouldn`t be too bothered about criticism.
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| I do it as a hobby too love, but i only show people pictures worth seeing. They are also a damn site better aswell. I delete better pictures then you post. Call me big headed as they will, but most people dont know a good photograph. Show most Grandmothers an out of focus picture of there family and they think its wonderful. If you are interested in the subject, you think its good, despite quality.
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| Quote ="TheAbbot"I do it as a hobby too love, but i only show people pictures worth seeing. They are also a damn site better aswell. I delete better pictures then you post. Call me big headed as they will, but most people dont know a good photograph. Show most Grandmothers an out of focus picture of there family and they think its wonderful. If you are interested in the subject, you think its good, despite quality.'"
So you dont like them,so what? Plenty of people on here do and couldn't give a monkeys what you think
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| Quote ="TheAbbot"I do it as a hobby too love, but i only show people pictures worth seeing. They are also a damn site better aswell. I delete better pictures then you post. Call me big headed as they will, but most people dont know a good photograph. Show most Grandmothers an out of focus picture of there family and they think its wonderful. If you are interested in the subject, you think its good, despite quality.'"
I think you have gone too far on this. Tracey and i dont see eye to eye on many subjects but i always have a look at her photos, appreciate how much she enjoys taking them and happen to think they are good.
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| Why have I gone too far? Please answer. I can prove my points. Can you?
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| Tracey? I am only making suggestions.
1 Be more selective with your photos.
2 Only show the good ones.
3 Think, would I really want to see this if I weren't a fan.
If you are lucky you will have about 20-30 pictures, none of which will be of warm up and may all be worth looking at.
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| Quote ="Analyst"Tracey? I am only making suggestions.
1 Be more selective with your photos.
2 Only show the good ones.
3 Think, would I really want to see this if I weren't a fan.
If you are lucky you will have about 20-30 pictures, none of which will be of warm up and may all be worth looking at.'"
On the other hand she could just carry on as she has been doing in the past as until you two came along everyone has appreciated the effort she puts in
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| Quote ="TheAbbot"Everyone? Me think not, just bare in mind that most people with negative views do not offer them unless a question is loaded that way.'"
Thought that came along with owning a camera.
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| Quote ="TheAbbot"I do it as a hobby too love, but i only show people pictures worth seeing. They are also a damn site better aswell. I delete better pictures then you post. Call me big headed as they will, but most people dont know a good photograph. Show most Grandmothers an out of focus picture of there family and they think its wonderful. If you are interested in the subject, you think its good, despite quality.'"
Sexist.
O.k. then,I will.
Most people enjoy looking at a photo without anylising it to death.
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| Quote ="TheAbbot"I do it as a hobby too love, but i only show people pictures worth seeing. They are also a damn site better aswell. I delete better pictures then you post. Call me big headed as they will, but most people dont know a good photograph. Show most Grandmothers an out of focus picture of there family and they think its wonderful. If you are interested in the subject, you think its good, despite quality.'"
time to put up or shut up i think, you must have a website or online stock so lets see how good you are link please. plus i am studying for a degree in photography so i can tell the difference between a good shot and a bad one.
trace i like your shots keep it up and donโt worry about what people like this say (if someone advises you to shot in sports mode then they donโt really know that much them selfโs).
and just so you know professional match photographers take anything up to 10,000 shots so 400 is a drop in the ocean.
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| Quote ="TheAbbot"I do it as a hobby too love, but i only show people pictures worth seeing. They are also a damn site better aswell. I delete better pictures then you post. Call me big headed as they will, but most people dont know a good photograph. Show most Grandmothers an out of focus picture of there family and they think its wonderful. If you are interested in the subject, you think its good, despite quality.'"
Then go ahead and post some. Like I've said on several occasions, I don't profess to be anything other than a happy amateur. If SOME people like my photos then that's good, I don't intend making a living out of it, although I have had some of my work published (both rugby and non-rugby) and it's something I enjoy doing.
I wouldn't say you are big headed, patronising in the extreme, but I can't judge if you are big headed until I have seen your work, maybe you are entitled to be.
Thanks to everyone else for the positive posts, don't worry, much to the no doubt consternation of Mr Abbot, I will continue to post my match photos aslong as SOME people want to see them.
There is of course always an option for you Abbot, just don't look at them LOVE!
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| Quote ="Analyst"Tracey? I am only making suggestions.
1 Be more selective with your photos.
2 Only show the good ones.
3 Think, would I really want to see this if I weren't a fan.
If you are lucky you will have about 20-30 pictures, none of which will be of warm up and may all be worth looking at.'"
1. I select the ones I think people would like to see, for various reasons.
2. See point 1
3. See point 1.
I take warm up photos because other people don't.
Thanks for the advice
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| I like the pics, and the 'makk attack' set of 3 made a great x-mas present and I believe Trace also donates any profits from the pics to the RSG/JRs which is very comendable.
Keep up the good work
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| I wasn't aware you were entering these pictures for the Turner Prize, Trace. I thought they were just pictures from Rovers games you wanted to share with other Rovers fans on the internet.
Judging by certain people's reactions to your pictures, I'm obviously wrong.
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr"I wasn't aware you were entering these pictures for the Turner Prize, Trace. I thought they were just pictures from Rovers games you wanted to share with other Rovers fans on the internet.
Judging by certain people's reactions to your pictures, I'm obviously wrong.'"
You're wrong?? How gutted do you think I feel? I've already bought my outfit for the awards ceremony
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr"I wasn't aware you were entering these pictures for the Turner Prize, Trace. I thought they were just pictures from Rovers games you wanted to share with other Rovers fans on the internet.
Judging by certain people's reactions to your pictures, I'm obviously wrong.'"
To be fair,I like to see them too.
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| Quote ="barton baird"To be fair,I like to see them too.'"
In fairness I have had some very favourable comments from supporters of most clubs, but hey, what do they know eh?
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| Quote ="TheAbbot"I do it as a hobby too love, but i only show people pictures worth seeing. They are also a damn site better aswell. I delete better pictures then you post. Call me big headed as they will, but most people dont know a good photograph. Show most Grandmothers an out of focus picture of there family and they think its wonderful. If you are interested in the subject, you think its good, despite quality.'"
People who belittle others like this always have some sort of inadequacy. Constructive criticism is all well and good, being a self appropriating, over the top idiot is not HTH
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| P.s Trace, carry on the good work!!!!!!!!!
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| Thanks Reeny, you have such a good way of putting things - loving your work
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| Quote ="Reenyrobin"People who belittle others like this always have some sort of inadequacy. Constructive criticism is all well and good, being a self appropriating, over the top idiot is not HTH'"
In fairness Tracey asked for his opinion so i dont see why he is being so harshly treated for giving it.
Quote ="RoversTrace"Are you a photographer? I always appreciate feedback of any kind and if you think they are dross I'd like to know where you think i'm going wrong. Perhaps you could advise me on settings or fstops? I'm merely an amateur who enjoys taking photos, some people on here seem to enjoy looking at them, especially those that can't get to games, but maybe they're not the connoiseur of art that you obviously are.
I'm serious, go ahead, tell me where I'm going wrong?'"
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| Quote ="TheAbbot"Give enough monkeys enough typewriters and they will write Shakespear.
I have argued with idiots before on here and it just isnt worth it.'"
Takes one to know one Abbott!
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| Quote ="Basil Fawlty"Takes one to know one Abbott!'"
Oi Basil, I rang you this morning and you didn't answer!!!
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