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'when my life is over, the thing which will have given me greatest pride is that I was first to plunge into the sea, swimming freely underwater without any connection to the terrestrial world'
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| Quote: reddan "The RFL argument regarding the location point is so that clubs outside the heartlands that don't have that 'default' rugby league interest aren't at a disadvantage as they're more likely to miss out on the attendance point and the 40% capacity point.
But considering that very criteria is set out to improve the game and the image of the sport - why should they benefit because of things they can't achieve? You could argue both Hull clubs are also at a disadvantage in those points because they're drawing support from the same area.
I'd award those clubs the location point if they achieved (say) average crowds of 4k and reached certain levels of youth development, not because they don't.'"
I spend a few days a month over in lancs and Mersyside area and geographically there are a lot of teams withing a small area not that much bigger than Hull and surrounding villages.
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33934.gif BLACK AND WHITES
East is East,West is West,
and never the twain shall meet.
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| Quote: rover49 "I spend a few days a month over in lancs and Mersyside area and geographically there are a lot of teams withing a small area not that much bigger than Hull and surrounding villages.'"
Leeds - Bradford
Saints - Wigan -Warrington-Salford
All within peeing distance of each other,so don`t see why location should be an issue.
As both Hull and Rovers get good support I can`t see the problem of two teams in one city.It works in football.
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club." Adam Pearson, FC Website 23-09-2011: |
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| Quote: reddan "The RFL argument regarding the location point is so that clubs outside the heartlands that don't have that 'default' rugby league interest aren't at a disadvantage as they're more likely to miss out on the attendance point and the 40% capacity point.
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The whole concept of awarding points is to disadvantage teams who don't get them.
You shouldn't create new ways of adding points for teams you know don't fit the standard criteria.
I am all for expansion but we shouldn't do it just for the sake of it and at the expense of potentially more viable traditional teams.
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| Quote: Willa "The whole concept of awarding points is to disadvantage teams who don't get them.
You shouldn't create new ways of adding points for teams you know don't fit the standard criteria.
I am all for expansion but we shouldn't do it just for the sake of it and at the expense of potentially more viable traditional teams.'"
Guess it depends what strategic direction the RFL are heading towards. Their strategy over the last few years appears to be around expansion geographically. Personally i would review my strategy if i were the RFL and look at expanding into the RL heartlands and the viable traditional teams rather than throwing more money at an idea that i dont think works. It's about time the RFL got it into their heads that rugby league is a game played mainly by teams in the north of england across the M62 coridoor.
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33934.gif BLACK AND WHITES
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"I" said the sparrow "With my bow and arrow.":33934.gif |
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| Quote: Rupert Pupkin "Not a thing to worry about!'"
Unusual for a Rovers supporter.
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| is HULL KINGSTON ROVERS FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED the official name for the club?
they are showing as still being within a Voluntary Arrangement dating back 5 years this can't be true can it?
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HULL KINGSTON ROVERS is my religion, Craven Park is my church and Jordan Abdull is my God: |
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| 7100 as a core support nowadays?
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44595.jpg [quote="Adeybull"] so the panel took the same view as your excellent assessment.[/quote]:44595.jpg |
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| 7103 wasnt it?
Not like we can say the extra 3 were Les Cats fans either!
not bad at all compared to about 2k afew years back!
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| Quote: Barnacle Bill "Those are the criteria for this round of licensing. That is what the RFL stated when licensing was introduced, they were to be used this time round.
The licenses awarded last time were based on (in theory) similar criteria but it was not the transparent process it is supposed to be now.'"
Bill it wasnt, isnt and never will be.
In fact it would be ridiculous to have a tick box system, especially considering there has been no weighting.
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
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| Quote: Bertie "No worries whatsoever.
The only ones who could be affected are those who received warning letters a few months ago from the RFL.'"
that was just for stadia
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Bill it wasnt, isnt and never will be.
In fact it would be ridiculous to have a tick box system, especially considering there has been no weighting.'"
Tell that to the RFLhttps://www.therfl.co.uk/clientdocs/Operational%20Rules%20Part%201.pdfrl
Or how about this?
"The licence application process was handled by the RFL's staff and took place in three stagesthe clubs were then divided into three categories, A, B and C based on a simple points system; and finally each club underwent a detailed analysis of their structure and business plan, the results of which were compiled in individual reports submitted to the RFL board for consideration.
"The basis for the licensing process was established in May 2005 when the RFL, in full consultation with member clubs, drew up a strategy document for Super League which basically said ' This is what we want the league to look like and this is what we want the clubs to look like,'" explained Findlay." available herehttps://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/rugby-league/RFL-boss-praises-clubs-for.4302787.jprl
This is what we want the clubs to look like? Sounds to me like there's a checklist of criteria that the RFL want clubs to meet a "tick box system" if you will.
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Barnacle Bill "Tell that to the RFLhttps://www.therfl.co.uk/clientdocs/Operational%20Rules%20Part%201.pdfrl
Or how about this?
"The licence application process was handled by the RFL's staff and took place in three stagesthe clubs were then divided into three categories, A, B and C based on a simple points system; and finally each club underwent a detailed analysis of their structure and business plan, the results of which were compiled in individual reports submitted to the RFL board for consideration.
"The basis for the licensing process was established in May 2005 when the RFL, in full consultation with member clubs, drew up a strategy document for Super League which basically said 'This is what we want the league to look like and this is what we want the clubs to look like,'" explained Findlay." available herehttps://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/rugby-league/RFL-boss-praises-clubs-for.4302787.jprl
This is what we want the clubs to look like? Sounds to me like there's a checklist of criteria that the RFL want clubs to meet a "tick box system" if you will.
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
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| Quote: Bertie "Leeds must have found winning form, their forum fool is back
then this is the Hull KR forum so the lack of knowledge doesnt surprise!
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| Quote: Barnacle Bill "Tell that to the RFLhttps://www.therfl.co.uk/clientdocs/Operational%20Rules%20Part%201.pdfrl
Or how about this?
"The licence application process was handled by the RFL's staff and took place in three stagesthe clubs were then divided into three categories, A, B and C based on a simple points system; and finally each club underwent a detailed analysis of their structure and business plan, the results of which were compiled in individual reports submitted to the RFL board for consideration.
"The basis for the licensing process was established in May 2005 when the RFL, in full consultation with member clubs, drew up a strategy document for Super League which basically said 'This is what we want the league to look like and this is what we want the clubs to look like,'" explained Findlay." available herehttps://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/rugby-league/RFL-boss-praises-clubs-for.4302787.jprl
This is what we want the clubs to look like? Sounds to me like there's a checklist of criteria that the RFL want clubs to meet a "tick box system" if you will.
There was a published list of criteria for the last round, which it sounds to me formed the basis of the license grade. I also expect there was some latitude on certain points, as I don't think we got visibility on how many and which points each club scored.
I'm not sure how you can be sure that the same criteria will be used next time round, though, this is the RFL after all. I'm sure they said last time round that A and B clubs would not undergo as much rigorous scrutiny next time as you can only move one ranking category from last time. C clubs on the other hand would be under pressure to deliver on improvement promises, which Rovers have done on a lot of fronts anyway. No way Rovers won't get a franchise.
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