I find myself in the very unusual position of agreeing with you. I just wish more rovers fans would say the same but unfortunately I believe club loyalty is still winning the day

Each to their own opinion.

On the field he was unmatched for heart and off the field he was a great lad too, I've had the pleasure of talking to Ben a fair few times and he always had time for fans.

What he got up to, in his own time, is no worse than what goes unnoticed each and every day countless times in Hull, some far worse. His identity tied up his actions and sadly has ended his stay at Hull KR.

If it hadn't been for the media sources around the modern game this wouldn't have been the outcome.

Barrie McDermott has done worse than Charlie (he was the first person in the UK charged with using CS gas in a brawl) and now is a much loved TV pundit.

Barrie was a scrapper no doubts there (however he never needed a mate to hold any-one down whilst he kicked them in the head!!)...nor is Barrie a racist ....unbelievable comparison

Well said dum dum Charlie is a really nice guy but he made the mistake of moving back to the area where all his trouble started my motto is never go back and he did, I was angry with bens last actions simply because he was great for our club and I just hope he doesn't keep falling into the same trap at his next club.

Did the people in this area make this [ilovely nice guy[/i be a racist ?

Well, I've never met him, but I do remember his girlfriend (at the time, no idea if they're still together, hope not for her sake) being completely dumped whilst he went out on the town in Perpignan. Strange behaviour for such a lovely lad...

Whoo Whoo I never said that did he but it's pretty obvious ain't it that it's all happened whilst he has been living in this area he moved back to as I've said gutted he's gone from a players perspective but the club have done the right thing now it's up to him to turn his life around,and bb u know as well as I do that other people in society have done far worse things than Ben and I know that but cos he is in the lime light it's made it worse u cannot tell me he is the only racist in the country

He's not even racist, he joined some 'proud to be British' Facebook groups and called an indian taxi driver a derogatory term (not to his face, to his own friends) hardly puts him in white robes with a burning cross, does it?

I could join the same groups (which have over 1000 members) and write offensive comments on my wall and I guarantee I won't end up in the paper.

You really have shocked me with that post Dum Dum as I know you are an intelligent man!
Mind you some would argue Nick Griffin is also intelligent.

I just have a lot of time for Charlie, what he posts at 2am after a drunken night shouldn't really end up in the paper. I suppose it's his own fault for accepting all friend requests.

Not a problem but his actions are not actions that warrant any defence. You may see his comments as just derogatory but the simple fact is they were racist no matter what slant or circumstances are put on them. Calling some-one a c***t is derogatory calling an Asian a paki c***t is racist.

Oh dear.


Oh dear.


Oh dear. Who are you and what have you done with dum-dum?

dum-dum has always come across as a rational and balanced person who would immediately understand that trying to defend the indefensible merely tars one with the same brush.

Do you really think that the fault lies with the media for highlighting that what Cockayne did in his own time was racist and unacceptable? Do you honestly think that just because others are sadly just as bad or worse in attitude than Cockayne then that makes his actions all right?

Do you truly believe that because the phrase "P--i C---" was posted only to his friends and not to the target himself that means that Cockayne is not racist? Despite the fact that the phrase is even in his head in the first place? Despite the fact he believes the Channel Tunnel should be blocked and signs up to right-wing extremist groups?

I can't believe dum-dum would say that a man who lies and cheats his way out of the army, half kills a man in the most cowardly of ways and makes racist remarks in private albeit on a publicly accessible website is a pleasure to talk to and a "great lad". And then goes on to bemoan the fact that it's all unfair because it's alright to be that way as long as it's done privately and the big mean newspaper blokes are the real crooks in all of this because they've shown him up for what he is and ruined his career and plenty of other people in the world are just as bad so that makes it all right then. Really? Shows how wrong you can be about people.

Not really the ultimate definition of a racist, though.

Suggesting someone is ugly and stinking due to their beliefs is a [ibit[/i racist, surely?

The world would be such a great place if RLFans posters ruled it!!!!