Away support might increase a bit (other than for The Derby) but fans don't travel in huge nimbers to The KC despite it being arguably the best ground in the league.

I do think that the north stand development can be nothing but good in the long term though.

I do think the new stand is great & improves our ground no end, BUT I realy struggle to see how it helps the club or the game? our team played well when the ground was poor our crowds have not improved much (we do have the capacity to I supose) the real nagging thought I had on sunday as I walked round to the East stand was all this development & money for (even if we finish top of the weekly rounds & have a good cup run with home draws) 20 matches at the best, How dose that pay the bills? I like a lot of others love the game & would happily watch any place it was played. In fact my two most favorite grounds to watch are Whitehaven & Keighley. I just think that our game is struggling to cope with full time professionalism which is as new to League as it is to Union & we dont have a marketable international game as they have.

You'll be amazed on how many fans want somewhere to sit, good view, under cover.

Is that then counteracted by the amount of fans who won't pay the money to attend an all-seater stadium?

Why, are you building one?

i believe edith means your super stadium that other than rovers is regularly overlooked by away supporters

So? I'm talking about hkr fans who can't/don't want to stand and can't get a season ticket for the RM stand without a slightly blocked view.

Aye, there are always people you'll upset. Excuse makers. It could be a shiny new stadium with half seats/half stands and people would say they don't like to stand facing west, and would never sit down to watch rugby. Do you build a new stadium to accommodate these for them to then say they don't want to watch rugby in summer?

I don't know what your argument is.

BR was saying he can't help but think the new stand might be a waste of cash, I was pointing out that's there's plenty of fans who don't currently go to hkr who will with the new facilities.

And of course you'll get a few extra away fans.

I wasn't arguing, I was asking a question. A rather broad, general RL fans question admittedly. Wasn't arguing.

Just had £10 on London being top 6 next year. They'll have a bloated average of 8500 attendance (including 6500 inmates from local jails given 2 hours of fresh air free of charge), spend the full cap and have unbelievably attractive tea ladies who happen to know top nrl players who just want to visit for a year.

I think the new stand is great but will it bring in that much more money? I am just watching an NRL game & their fans seem happy to sit on a grass slope in the open air. In the recent past Bradford got big crowds in what is ramshackle hole in the ground(which I actualy like to visit when the weather is OK) I think ground criteria are side issue in our game, the product on the field with financial resposibility should be the only concern. It is nice for some teams to play in state of the art stadiums but in reality only Saints Wolves & Salford are in new purpose built league stadiums & it is interesting to note that the top two teams to date are not in their own grounds but tenants of soccer clubs. My preferance is for the goverment & local authoritys to provide public stadiums for the use of all sports as a public duty as is the case in lots of other countrys. Hull actualy does well in that respect.

The new stand will pay for itself any improvement is always a plus I think blakeysrobin wants us to put the speedway and dog tracks back in and add grass corners to the pitch for every game like the old days

Do you mean Beverley Red?

Thought it was blakeysrobin