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| Quote Easty="Easty"I never said they will be. I'm not joined to the hip of the directors and know what they plan to budget for sc spend. I would simply hope we could find extra revenue streams with the north being built to increase our sc spend.
FFS I'm a fan not a staff member anything I say is an opinion yet you twist it to make it look like I'm saying it will happen.'"
And I'm just saying that your directors are on record as saying the squad will be rebuilt, step backwards to go forwards and they're not underwriting losses anymore, which to me suggests spend a fair bit below the cap.
On the North Stand, it's 35 weeks until the new season, so it would appear that it will be ready on time. However, you could argue that the revenue streams from it will initially go towards paying back the £2m borrowed by the council to fund it, not necessarily onto the wage bill.
From what's been said, I'd be surprised if spending on players was higher next season than this, that's all. | | |
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So its not 11 out and 8 quality players in then?
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| Quote Mrs Barista="Mrs Barista"And I'm just saying that your directors are on record as saying the squad will be rebuilt, step backwards to go forwards and they're not underwriting losses anymore, which to me suggests spend a fair bit below the cap.
On the North Stand, it's 35 weeks until the new season, so it would appear that it will be ready on time. However, you could argue that the revenue streams from it will initially go towards paying back the £2m borrowed by the council to fund it, not necessarily onto the wage bill.
From what's been said, I'd be surprised if spending on players was higher next season than this, that's all.'"
The money borrowed for the stand is being paid back over 35 years IIRC. | | |
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Quote bishops finger="bishops finger"So its not 11 out and 8 quality players in then?'"
We don't know - it is all just speculation.
We're all familiar with the mood music from the club, but it is open to interpretation as to what exactly it means.
To fully understand Barista's interpretation, imagine it being spoken by an actor (over)playing the part of a Shakespearean fool ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakespearean_fool ), forefinger to cheek, eyebrows raised in mock simplicity. |
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Quote bishops finger="bishops finger"So its not 11 out and 8 quality players in then?'"
We don't know - it is all just speculation.
We're all familiar with the mood music from the club, but it is open to interpretation as to what exactly it means.
To fully understand Barista's interpretation, imagine it being spoken by an actor (over)playing the part of a Shakespearean fool ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakespearean_fool ), forefinger to cheek, eyebrows raised in mock simplicity. | |
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Quote Easty="Easty"For me this 10,000 figure is a load of tosh.
This magical 10,000 figure was quoted a few years ago. In that time revenue streams could have gone up and we therefore need less then the stated 10,000. Alternatively they could have reduced leaving us needing for example 11000 crowds. A crowd to break even ratio surely changes every season dependant on revenue/spends'"
Well, Hudgell said it again this year:
www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html
You are right, it's never the same year on year. But the key point here is that a lot of costs (ground maintenance, rates, backroom staff, training camps, kit etc) are fixed. Sky income is fixed, or at least certain. If you spend £1.65m on players, the income from attendances is the balancing figure to break even. And I think he's saying that to afford that needs 10k every week. The problem is that you need to commit to the wage bill without knowing the attendances as you sign players up in advance. If you're being prudent, you'd not over-commit until you had evidence that 10k (or whatever that number is) was achievable.
Don't forget the step up in costs next year too. In 40-20 magazine, Mike Smith says one of the North Stand partners has dropped out, leaving Rovers with a bigger share of costs to cover than expected, hence the delay in the East Stand extension. These costs are commitments Rovers have to cover, they're not discretionary in the way that the playing budget is, hence the playing budget being the most likely area to be squeezed if 10k looks uncertain. |
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Quote Easty="Easty"For me this 10,000 figure is a load of tosh.
This magical 10,000 figure was quoted a few years ago. In that time revenue streams could have gone up and we therefore need less then the stated 10,000. Alternatively they could have reduced leaving us needing for example 11000 crowds. A crowd to break even ratio surely changes every season dependant on revenue/spends'"
Well, Hudgell said it again this year:
www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html
You are right, it's never the same year on year. But the key point here is that a lot of costs (ground maintenance, rates, backroom staff, training camps, kit etc) are fixed. Sky income is fixed, or at least certain. If you spend £1.65m on players, the income from attendances is the balancing figure to break even. And I think he's saying that to afford that needs 10k every week. The problem is that you need to commit to the wage bill without knowing the attendances as you sign players up in advance. If you're being prudent, you'd not over-commit until you had evidence that 10k (or whatever that number is) was achievable.
Don't forget the step up in costs next year too. In 40-20 magazine, Mike Smith says one of the North Stand partners has dropped out, leaving Rovers with a bigger share of costs to cover than expected, hence the delay in the East Stand extension. These costs are commitments Rovers have to cover, they're not discretionary in the way that the playing budget is, hence the playing budget being the most likely area to be squeezed if 10k looks uncertain. | |
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| Quote Mild Rover="Mild Rover"We're all familiar with the mood music from the club, but it is open to interpretation as to what exactly it means.'"
Like Terry Jacks.
We had joy, we had fun
We had seasons in the sun
But the stars we could reach
Were just starfish on the beach
Hull FC being the starfish, n'est-ce pas? | | |
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Quote bishops finger="bishops finger"So its not 11 out and 8 quality players in then?'"
It's all just speculation
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=526851&tsmp=1339924211&start=80
Quote bishops finger="Paul T - HKR"According to Wayne Parker 11-12 of the current first grade squad are going!'"
Quote bishops finger="rover49"Although I don't have any confirmed knowledge, I was told by a usually reliable source that 7 will be going, Webster, Galea, Watts, Murrell, Netherton, Mc Donnell and Clinton. This was from someone within the club.'"
All this is from the start of May I posted something similar but can't find it. I've said previously quality for me is a Michael Dobson or a Ben Galea. We wouldn't I'd imagine have the SC for 8 of those.  |
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Quote bishops finger="bishops finger"So its not 11 out and 8 quality players in then?'"
It's all just speculation
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=526851&tsmp=1339924211&start=80
Quote bishops finger="Paul T - HKR"According to Wayne Parker 11-12 of the current first grade squad are going!'"
Quote bishops finger="rover49"Although I don't have any confirmed knowledge, I was told by a usually reliable source that 7 will be going, Webster, Galea, Watts, Murrell, Netherton, Mc Donnell and Clinton. This was from someone within the club.'"
All this is from the start of May I posted something similar but can't find it. I've said previously quality for me is a Michael Dobson or a Ben Galea. We wouldn't I'd imagine have the SC for 8 of those. | |
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Quote Easty="Easty"It's all just speculation
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=526851&tsmp=1339924211&start=80
All this is from the start of May I posted something similar but can't find it. I've said previously quality for me is a Michael Dobson or a Ben Galea. We wouldn't I'd imagine have the SC for 8 of those.
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Do you remember "wanye parker's wig"? Great poster, entice it back.
The very lovely GML has hinted at a big clear out too. |
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Quote Easty="Easty"It's all just speculation
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=526851&tsmp=1339924211&start=80
All this is from the start of May I posted something similar but can't find it. I've said previously quality for me is a Michael Dobson or a Ben Galea. We wouldn't I'd imagine have the SC for 8 of those.
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Do you remember "wanye parker's wig"? Great poster, entice it back.
The very lovely GML has hinted at a big clear out too. | |
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| Quote Mrs Barista="Mrs Barista"Snip, thank Christ.'"
For wassocking fanny face's sake, although you are my favourite, that was brain dehydrating in it's extreme boredom.
Do we give a cats flange as fans about money? As long as we don't do a Bradford or a nineties Rovers of course we cocking don't. Most of us are lucky enough to have jobs, we're not responsible for Rovers, we just turn up every week and want a bit of entertainment.
We've got Mike Smith to make a massive steaming turd of running the club without us having to worry about it, email him if you're that bothered, that'll be a long conversation. | | |
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| Quote Sandra The Terrorist="Sandra The Terrorist"For wassocking fanny face's sake, although you are my favourite, that was brain dehydrating in it's extreme boredom.
Do we give a cats flange as fans about money? As long as we don't do a Bradford or a nineties Rovers of course we cocking don't. Most of us are lucky enough to have jobs, we're not responsible for Rovers, we just turn up every week and want a bit of entertainment.
We've got Mike Smith to make a massive steaming turd of running the club without us having to worry about it, email him if you're that bothered, that'll be a long conversation.'"
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Quote Mrs Barista="Mrs Barista"Well, Hudgell said it again this year:
www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html
You are right, it's never the same year on year. But the key point here is that a lot of costs (ground maintenance, rates, backroom staff, training camps, kit etc) are fixed. Sky income is fixed, or at least certain. If you spend £1.65m on players, the income from attendances is the balancing figure to break even. And I think he's saying that to afford that needs 10k every week. The problem is that you need to commit to the wage bill without knowing the attendances as you sign players up in advance. If you're being prudent, you'd not over-commit until you had evidence that 10k (or whatever that number is) was achievable.
Don't forget the step up in costs next year too. In 40-20 magazine, Mike Smith says one of the North Stand partners has dropped out, leaving Rovers with a bigger share of costs to cover than expected, hence the delay in the East Stand extension. These costs are commitments Rovers have to cover, they're not discretionary in the way that the playing budget is, hence the playing budget being the most likely area to be squeezed if 10k looks uncertain.'" As expected.
Well done for turning the subject to what you want.
How about if you want to talk about the North stand you talk about it on the thread which has been created for the subject.
I know you know where it is seeing as you have made the same point on there. |
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Quote Mrs Barista="Mrs Barista"Well, Hudgell said it again this year:
www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html
You are right, it's never the same year on year. But the key point here is that a lot of costs (ground maintenance, rates, backroom staff, training camps, kit etc) are fixed. Sky income is fixed, or at least certain. If you spend £1.65m on players, the income from attendances is the balancing figure to break even. And I think he's saying that to afford that needs 10k every week. The problem is that you need to commit to the wage bill without knowing the attendances as you sign players up in advance. If you're being prudent, you'd not over-commit until you had evidence that 10k (or whatever that number is) was achievable.
Don't forget the step up in costs next year too. In 40-20 magazine, Mike Smith says one of the North Stand partners has dropped out, leaving Rovers with a bigger share of costs to cover than expected, hence the delay in the East Stand extension. These costs are commitments Rovers have to cover, they're not discretionary in the way that the playing budget is, hence the playing budget being the most likely area to be squeezed if 10k looks uncertain.'" As expected.
Well done for turning the subject to what you want.
How about if you want to talk about the North stand you talk about it on the thread which has been created for the subject.
I know you know where it is seeing as you have made the same point on there. | |
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Quote Mrs Barista="Mrs Barista"Well, Hudgell said it again this year:
www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html
You are right, it's never the same year on year. But the key point here is that a lot of costs (ground maintenance, rates, backroom staff, training camps, kit etc) are fixed. Sky income is fixed, or at least certain. If you spend £1.65m on players, the income from attendances is the balancing figure to break even. And I think he's saying that to afford that needs 10k every week. The problem is that you need to commit to the wage bill without knowing the attendances as you sign players up in advance. If you're being prudent, you'd not over-commit until you had evidence that 10k (or whatever that number is) was achievable.
Don't forget the step up in costs next year too. In 40-20 magazine, Mike Smith says one of the North Stand partners has dropped out, leaving Rovers with a bigger share of costs to cover than expected, hence the delay in the East Stand extension. These costs are commitments Rovers have to cover, they're not discretionary in the way that the playing budget is, hence the playing budget being the most likely area to be squeezed if 10k looks uncertain.'"
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Quote Mrs Barista="Mrs Barista"Well, Hudgell said it again this year:
www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html
You are right, it's never the same year on year. But the key point here is that a lot of costs (ground maintenance, rates, backroom staff, training camps, kit etc) are fixed. Sky income is fixed, or at least certain. If you spend £1.65m on players, the income from attendances is the balancing figure to break even. And I think he's saying that to afford that needs 10k every week. The problem is that you need to commit to the wage bill without knowing the attendances as you sign players up in advance. If you're being prudent, you'd not over-commit until you had evidence that 10k (or whatever that number is) was achievable.
Don't forget the step up in costs next year too. In 40-20 magazine, Mike Smith says one of the North Stand partners has dropped out, leaving Rovers with a bigger share of costs to cover than expected, hence the delay in the East Stand extension. These costs are commitments Rovers have to cover, they're not discretionary in the way that the playing budget is, hence the playing budget being the most likely area to be squeezed if 10k looks uncertain.'"
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