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| Quote Gordon Gekko="Gordon Gekko"There is no absolute proof that this person exists unless long term liabilities (£737k) are made up of directors loans from the said 'person' which would lessen the overall net liability somewhat in the short/medium term.
Also if you want a direct comparison with the performance of Hull you would have to look at Hulls books after their first S/L season, the season which these accounts are produced for. Remember Hull have had 7 years of S/L handouts to get where they are now.
Neither Clubs accounts make particularly good reading but nor do most RL clubs, and with Hull about to commit £2m to their training facility i would say theirs are about to take a turn for the worse as there is no evidence that this money can be raised without considerable borrowing, thus incurring more debt.'"
Hull have had more income over the last few years but have also had much high outgoings including a players wage bill of £1.6m vs one of £0.4m.
I agree that neither club is in a brilliant state financially but the size of the loss Rovers made in 2007 is pretty worrying considering the playing roster that season when Paul Cooke and Mick Vella were pretty much the only big names. The payroll costs will have increased in 2008 with Newton, Galea, Crossman, Jake Webster, paying James Webster for a full season and Dobson for half - this isn't speculation as the club are on the record that they were much nearer the salary cap in 08 than 07. Crossland has also said you've increased youth development expenditure so that's an extra drain on resources. The point is that unless something startling has happened to Rovers business model it's unlikely that 2008 accounts will show a much improved position so the debt figures could well increase.
I agree that FC's level of debt will increase with the new training centre, but depending on how any ground developments at Rovers are funded, so will theirs.
Now the accounts are finally available and a bit grim, I would challenge Hudgell's claim dismissing people speculating about Rovers finances as mischief-makers.
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| Quote CHURCHILL="CHURCHILL"So the Sky money could be seen as a handout, as most if not all Super League clubs aren't doing to well in the finance department and it is free money as such, given that the money is passed from Sky to the RFL who in turn hand out the money to the clubs.'"
Are you being thick on purpose?
Its not "free money" and handing something out is not the same as a "handout" in this context. If it was a handout it would be on top of the Sky money you get anyway and not part of it.
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| Quote CHURCHILL="CHURCHILL"Odd that really, they do say everything is connected, given the meaning of the term 'in the pink', then I suppose being that we are the top team in this city, that we are just that.
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The top team in the city Have the initials HFC as Kooga know.
before the mods lock the thread can we get back to discussing your accounts. I thank you
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| Quote Mrs Barista="Mrs Barista"
I agree that neither club is in a brilliant state financially but the size of the loss Rovers made in 2007 is pretty worrying. '"
Didn't worry the RFL enough to doubt Rovers franchise bid, even with a strict criteria towards having finances in order, as well as the fact only a few weeks back the RFL stated they had no problems whatsoever about the financial status of Rovers.
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| Quote Robbo4="Robbo4"Are you being thick on purpose?'"
That's not very nice now is it.
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| Quote clubfoot fc="clubfoot fc"The top team in the city Have the initials HFC as Kooga know.'"
Mistakes are made, I mean someone gave James Rule a job at the KC.
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| Quote clubfoot fc="clubfoot fc"The top team in the city Have the initials HFC as Kooga know.'"
It's not KooGa merchandise but thanks for the tag of top team 
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| Quote EAST HULL RED="EAST HULL RED"It's not KooGa merchandise but thanks for the tag of top team
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Is it not? My apologies. who produces it?
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| Quote Mrs Barista="Mrs Barista"Hull have had more income over the last few years but have also had much high outgoings including a players wage bill of £1.6m vs one of £0.4m.
I agree that neither club is in a brilliant state financially but the size of the loss Rovers made in 2007 is pretty worrying considering the playing roster that season when Paul Cooke and Mick Vella were pretty much the only big names. The payroll costs will have increased in 2008 with Newton, Galea, Crossman, Jake Webster, paying James Webster for a full season and Dobson for half - this isn't speculation as the club are on the record that they were much nearer the salary cap in 08 than 07. Crossland has also said you've increased youth development expenditure so that's an extra drain on resources. The point is that unless something startling has happened to Rovers business model it's unlikely that 2008 accounts will show a much improved position so the debt figures could well increase.
I agree that FC's level of debt will increase with the new training centre, but depending on how any ground developments at Rovers are funded, so will theirs.
Now the accounts are finally available and a bit grim, I would challenge Hudgell's claim dismissing people speculating about Rovers finances as mischief-makers.'"
Some fair and valid points there.
Should the long term liabilities at be mostly made up of directors loans from their 'wealthy backers' as i am lead to beleive they are then the accounts, though not ideal, are not as grim as they appear and are indeed much more healthier than the majority of S/L clubs.
Also worth noting that these accounts are for a 15 month accounting period with the extra three months (sep,oct & nov) being months where income would have been virtually non-existant. So again this will have adversely impacted on the profitablility of the company.
Next years accounts will certainly make interesting reading
Now any chance of a cuppa 
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| Quote clubfoot fc="clubfoot fc"Is it not? My apologies. who produces it?'"
No idea.
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