My First game yesterday against halifax (still sulking). Not impressed, thought Wakey & Leigh were bad the other night but yesterday put it into perspective. Wont win the middle eights with that side imho. Lunt still class, heffernan and minns looked ok, need somebody better than abdull alongside ellis. Pack is lightweight and moss is a liability...end of summary, imho.

Agree with a lot of what has been said. This team as it is, is unlikely to be successful in the middle 8s.
We are seriously short of heavy impact forwards and have been for the last 2-3 seasons. A damaging forward or two preferably in the Micky Paea mould is really needed, plus a quick half back to complement Ellis and Abdull, ie. someone who could go 80-90 metres.
Dane Chisholm caused us no end of problems when we played Sheffield and could do a job for us, unfortunately he is with them.
Some supporters had issues with him when he played those few games for us, but he pulled us out of a couple of sticky games in the middle 8s two seasons ago.
Re. Moss, want him to succeed but not convinced so far, lets hope he improves.
Shaun Lunt..without him we would have lost to Halifax, he is vital to us.
I,m happy with 7 from 7, who wouldn't be? but we must get promoted this time and that means beating Super League teams who will no doubt strengthen, and so must we.
Hope Sheen has got something in the pipes to come to us.

Forgot I'd left that rod out...

Lack of heart more like

Would never say that about an RL player but I know what you mean.

I don't mean he's scared or lacks bottle but he doesn't have that desire that sets top players apart

Strangely not really, I think he has the heart and will often put in some big hits that really stand out but then seems to have a 'job done' spell where he'll miss tackles and not put a stint in.

Whether its a lack of fitness due to training or a mental thing I don't know, not a bad player by any shout but just missing a fair bit to be a top player

I understand the sentiment about Wakey being the perennial whipping boys that has not materialised, I think we are good enough for the top 8 again however you could be right on here about dropping into the middle 8s.

As an observation Wakefield have not hit form as yet and i am sure we will have that purple patch other than Leeds we have been in every game and although the Leigh game may look like two poor teams to some there are other teams that are very poor at the moment, Wakey have Catalans away this week then Widnes at home two results there could see them pull clear of the bottom 4 or equally the other side dragged right into it, another couple of weeks we will see. As for Warrington a third of the season has almost gone they have not got a point yet so I see it will be difficult to get up the table although in reality they are only 3 wins away from the top 8 provided the others lose of course.

Who are Rovers targeting to swap with?

I think Widnes are the obvious team however, must have some cap spare. If they look to add strength for the mid 8's and or get a fully fit squad going into the split if could be a tough ask for Rovers to bounce back up.

For me Rovers need a good run in the cup against SL opposition to try and increase the intensity pre-split.

I'm like a latter day nostradamus me.....

After our performance today,you should be rubbing your hands. We were an average championship
side at best today which is totally unacceptable.I honestly think you will beat us in the challenge cup,and i hope you do, to wake us up and bring some reality home to our club.

Thinking back to our first few game after promotion the emotion and energy was high but the reality is any slip attitude wise will be punished and a dip had to happen.same in any league but especially SL.a lot can change in a week who thought leeds would have picked up so much or catalans looking like crud? I had Widnes down as certs for bottom after that it's very tight. Warrington have a large hole to dig out.i questioned earlier in season the age of your pack and whether it could operate at such tempo for a full SL season and that remains to be seen? Top 3 looks nailed on unfortunately .After that it's a lottery imo

In reality you don't want Warrington in the middle 8s

TO TRUE unless we do a Leigh and then we will not care who is their in the big game

As things shape up we are looking at Widnes, Huddersfield, Leigh and I would guess one of the bigger teams like Catalans or Warrington. The first three are all highly beatable.