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Quote: Barnabus "I hope Clinton goes, biggest waste of space we've ever had at the club,'"


Harsh.

However, Desi Williams will be relieved to have lost that particular crown.

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Quote: SirStan "Did you not wake up to thishttps://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/18711441rl
or thishttps://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/18599690rl

?? In the same period we have brought in experienced players such as

icon_lol.gif This has made me chuckle.

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Quote: Seventies red "With regards to Ben leaving, it is a very sad moment but all things come to an end and his recent injuries and age are obvious factors in this descision.
Personaly, i just wish that the club could have perhaps considered him for a coaching position within the club, i believe his fine rugby brain and the respect he commands from other players within the squad could benifit the club in the future years.'"


Galea has made it clear that he intends to carry on playing, so why would he want a coaching position?

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I bet I laughed louder at thishttps://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Ryan-McGoldrick-set-sign-Hull-FC-deal-end-2013/story-16482230-detail/story.htmlrl icon_lol.gif

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Quote: SirStan "Harsh.

However, Desi Williams will be relieved to have lost that particular crown.'"


I think if we calculated a crapness to salary ratio, Clinton would win, although Desi would push him very close.

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Quote: SirStan "I bet I laughed louder at thishttps://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Ryan-McGoldrick-set-sign-Hull-FC-deal-end-2013/story-16482230-detail/story.htmlrl
I don't understand the relevance but hey ho.

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Quote: Barnabus "I think if we calculated a crapness to salary ratio, Clinton would win, although Desi would push him very close.'"


Ok, so now we are adding a VFM angle to the debate. I can strike off all the we employed in the lower leagues then.

Without knowing salaries, we could argue the following have been less value than Clinton in the SL era:

Jim Gannon
Garrett Crossman
Mike Ratu

Any more?

PS: I'm no Clinton fan, I just want someone to talk to.

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Quote: Sheldon "I don't understand the relevance but hey ho.'"


Just comparing hilarity. You Aussies have no sense of humour. icon_wink.gif

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Ahhh you wanting clinton to leave and him actually been announced as leaving are 2 totally different things.

Hes not the worst ive seen in the SL era, hes had afew better games then crossman did.

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Quote: very red robin "Ahhh you wanting clinton to leave and him actually been announced as leaving are 2 totally different things.

Hes not the worst ive seen in the SL era, hes had afew better games then crossman did.'"


Are you in charge of recruitment at Hull?

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Quote: SirStan "Galea has made it clear that he intends to carry on playing, so why would he want a coaching position?'"


Why wouldn't he? just because he said he would prefer playing doesn't mean he would turn down a coaching position within the club, especialy if it guranteed him a longer period at the same club as opposed to perhaps just one more year somewhere else as a player, he's already said that he will be very sad to leave Hull Kr, just my personal opinion of course.

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Quote: Sheldon "Are you in charge of recruitment at Hull?'"


Certainly not, you got rid of tansey which was good to go forward, yet uve now got westerman,watts and mcgoldrick- good luck keeping them wasters on the straight and narrow.

If i was in charge of hull and actually wanted them to do well id of offered lovegrove a deal quite some time ago, id of scouted around for a good halfback but an experienced FB would be essential.

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Quote: very red robin "Certainly not, you got rid of tansey which was good to go forward, yet uve now got westerman,watts and mcgoldrick- good luck keeping them wasters on the straight and narrow.

If i was in charge of hull and actually wanted them to do well id of offered lovegrove a deal quite some time ago, id of scouted around for a good halfback but an experienced FB would be essential.'"


It was more to do with you suggesting you'd keep Clinton because you've seen worse players.

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Quote: very red robin "Ahhh you wanting clinton to leave and him actually been announced as leaving are 2 totally different things.

Hes not the worst ive seen in the SL era, hes had afew better games then crossman did.'"


Let's be fair, most players have had a few better games than Crossman did. Even Lee Gomersall ... maybe not. Andreas Bauer wasn't the best of signings - esp as it was based purely on a few home videos or something (but needs must tho' then)

Clinton has had some good games for us. He's also had a few games where his attitude certainly has been questioned. With this questionable attitude ingrained within our fans, his good games are quickly erased. I doubt anyone would be too sad if/when he departs end of the season. He'll still need replacing tho'.

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Quote: SirStan "Ok, so now we are adding a VFM angle to the debate. I can strike off all the poop we employed in the lower leagues then.

Without knowing salaries, we could argue the following have been less value than Clinton in the SL era


So do I.

Ratu, Corssman & Gannon were all poor, but I doubt any of them command a salary as good as Clinton's.

My excellent ratio will be playing ability benchmarked against the worst/best players at Rovers, versus their salary. The higher the score, the bigger waste of space they are.

So, based on some completely made up figures, Clinton is on £120k, and has a playing value of 2 (that's being generous), he scores 60.

Ratu, again based on completely made up figures, is on say £30k, also has a crapness of 2, scored 15.

Josh Hodgson on the other hand, relatively low made up salary of £45k, and a playing value of 8, scores 5.6.

Obviously, this is not flawed at all.

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