I'm very much travelling in the opposite direction!

I have every respect and sympathy for Shenton. I don't assume his infallibility, slavishly or otherwise, though - and nor should the disciplinary panel. They should judge on the evidence available, not on individual's opinions, not Shenton's or Powell's or Hudgell's or mine or yours.
The fact that some Cas fans are relying now on Shenton's good character (John Boudebza seems a nice guy from what I've seen, btw) and the possibility of other secret footage, suggests that even they think the evidence in the public domain is not that strong.

The remorse thing - I think can reasonably be assumed to be an expression of sympathy, rather than a mea culpa. The ban wasn't doubled for a lack of remorse. Remorse is RFL wording. I'm sorry Shenton is injured, it doesn't mean I'm responsible.

Curiously, a Cas player did put our captain out for the season last year. Nobody said much of anything that I recall, as it was not due to foul play.

I think you'll find Shenton was still moving when Boudebza went in.

YOU and me two

Before posting why not check the details of the case as posted on the RFL website and in particular the two statements below

The Panel state they have watched the video carefully and given careful consideration to what they have heard. They are satisfied dangerous contact was made, and do not accept the player lost his footing. It can be seen from the video the player makes a sweeping action with his left leg, and therefore has no control of his bodyweight. It is accepted the contact was not intentional however defenders have a duty of care when tackling opposing players.-
Reasons for Decision
The Panel state they have found this decision very difficult, and have given it careful consideration. The Panel give the player credit for his good character, previous disciplinary record, and remorse shown to the opposing player. It must be noted that the injury caused was very serious and will result in a lengthy absence. The Panel state on this occasion they have decided to go outside of the grading and believe a 4 match suspension and £300 fine is appropriate.

Has the foul and most horrid Frenchman been executed yet?

Nope, he's been exiled on St Helena until Lord Powell of Castleford deems it acceptable that his penance has been served.

I was just going post asking why we were talking about the boudebza incident on this thread when I realised it was me who derailed it by posting about Percival on the wrong thread.

Can you move it MR....

You have misunderstood my point about other footage.
I am suggesting that the ban is unfair UNLESS the RFL have access to other footage, and I agree that the evidence in the public domain is nowhere near conclusive enough for the panel to find the player guilty.
Essentially, I'm saying the same as you!

I understood, but the way I wrote it was wrong. My apologies!

I agree, we agree on this point.

www.hullkr.co.uk/on-the-pitch/ne ... warrington Mantellato suffered a torn retina scoring late last week. Could've been blinded. Doesn't the tackler have a 'duty of care'?

www.hullkr.co.uk/on-the-pitch/ne ... warrington Mantellato suffered a torn retina scoring late last week. Could've been blinded. Doesn't the tackler have a 'duty of care'?

Making his conversion even more impressive.

He should be taken to agincourt and shot by English archers like his ancestors were

It's the sheer bloody mindedness that brings a titter. It is like reading the work of an idiot savant.
Maybe they broke up badly and they can't let it go?

Beside the JB ban it was a good result all round. We should have scored more points in the first half and then could possibly have won the game. Just as important is the fact we got a point, more than we did last year in our opener or against Cas at home and this was done in front of 11,000 fans.