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| Quote: ☺East-Sard☺ "My money is on Russia. Their backyard, their rules. If the world let Russia dictate the Syrian crisis, there's no way they'll step up for Crimea/Ukraine.'" My point was more about Putin and his view on the world/Russia.
IMHO He is a dinosaur and will eventually be shown the door Whether he likes it or not. |
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| Quote: Mild Rover "This, basically.
Putin is an booty, but Ukraine is a bit of a weird portmanteau of a country, with very, very little history as a nation state prior to the collapse of the USSR. He's trying to take advantage, is all.
Appetite for War, especially against dudes with significant military capabilities, is going to be limited. Considerations of 'international law' are only good for the lolz. Sanctions cuts 2 ways - a third of Europe's oil and gas comes from Russia. If fuel bills started to rise too much, I suspect people here and our media might suddenly start to sympathise much more with the ethnic Russians of Eastern Ukraine, and the idea of redrawing of borders along more 'rational lines'.
Russians themselves might well get fed up with Putin, and that would be no bad thing IMO. It'll be for other reasons though, and the gas and oil will still be there.'" Indeed.
My first though on hearing the word sanctions was 'Where do we get most of our oil and gas from again'. |
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| Quote: Anakin Skywalker "My point was more about Putin and his view on the world/Russia.
IMHO He is a dinosaur and will eventually be shown the door Whether he likes it or not.'"
Got to have grudging admiration for his political abilities, to have survived this long in that snake-pit. But you're right he can't go on forever.
I think a lot of the issues in Ukraine are economic rather than ethnic. The economic elements apply to Russia too - perhaps even more so. The oil and gas cash, takes the edge off a bit, but the corruption and wealth disparities are taking a toll on national morale there, I'm sure.
These post-imperial societies, with exaggerated conceptions of their residual potency and huge and growing gaps between their rich and poor - what are they like, eh?  |
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| Quote: Mild Rover "Got to have grudging admiration for his political abilities, to have survived this long in that snake-pit. But you're right he can't go on forever.
I think a lot of the issues in Ukraine are economic rather than ethnic. The economic elements apply to Russia too - perhaps even more so. The oil and gas cash, takes the edge off a bit, but the corruption and wealth disparities are taking a toll on national morale there, I'm sure.
These post-imperial societies, with exaggerated conceptions of their residual potency and huge and growing gaps between their rich and poor - what are they like, eh? ![]() 
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| Quote: Anakin Skywalker "My point was more about Putin and his view on the world/Russia.
IMHO He is a dinosaur and will eventually be shown the door Whether he likes it or not.'"
Putin's just another Russian president, they'll be another one just like him in waiting, if that's what they want for the next 10 years. For Putin it's a perfect time to adopt such a pro Russian nationalistic policy. Following the successful Winter Olympics both on and off the slopes, Russian patriotism will be sky high. No better time to spin some pro Russian propaganda about the west interfering and militia coup in Ukraine. We must protect fellow Russians/speakers. Mobilise the troops. Parliament agree. Pro demonstrations follow and anti establishments like 'Pussy Riot' are quashed/silenced. For now, locals probably aren't paying attention to their domestic financial meltdown resulting from their recent foreign affair policies. Instead national pride with an overtone of propaganda is probably blinding them as normal. Hail Vladamir |
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| Quote: ☺East-Sard☺ "Putin's just another Russian president, they'll be another one just like him in waiting, if that's what they want for the next 10 years. For Putin it's a perfect time to adopt such a pro Russian nationalistic policy. Following the successful Winter Olympics both on and off the slopes, Russian patriotism will be sky high. No better time to spin some pro Russian propaganda about the west interfering and militia coup in Ukraine. We must protect fellow Russians/speakers. Mobilise the troops. Parliament agree. Pro demonstrations follow and anti establishments like 'Pussy Riot' are quashed/silenced. For now, locals probably aren't paying attention to their domestic financial meltdown resulting from their recent foreign affair policies. Instead national pride with an overtone of propaganda is probably blinding them as normal. Hail Vladamir'" Putin is a special case, Or so it seems. I mean look at rlThis.rl The guy is a nutter (I imagine former KGB agents are).
Russia seemed to be moving away from being insular until Putin got in 1999- present day(If we ignore the puppet in the middle of his 2 times in office.) now it's back to undercover ,smoke and mirrors and aggressive foreign policy again I can't imagine the two are not connected. |
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