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| Good at producing props, maybe. But 2 of your best have gone. What IS bad is that you kept Clinton and took on O'Hara.
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| Quote: Houghtons Heroes "Good at producing props, maybe. But 2 of your best have gone. What IS bad is that you kept Clinton and took on O'Hara.'"
O'Hara is a good solid pro.
Define "kept" when used in the context of not dismissing someone who has a contract. If you manage it, it may come in useful when joining in conversations about Seymour (assuming you occasionally visit the Hull FC board?).
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| Quote: SirStan "O'Hara is a good solid pro.
Define "kept" when used in the context of not dismissing someone who has a contract. If you manage it, it may come in useful when joining in conversations about Seymour (assuming you occasionally visit the Hull FC board?).'"
KEPT as in didnt release him when it was found he really wasn't pulling his [considerable] weight, was massively unfit and was strongly rumoured to be dropped for laziness and troublecausing reasons. Then you have the 10 minute wonder Paea who really isn't a patch on Watts or Taylor.
My feelings on Seymour are well documented. I didn't want him in the first place and still don't want him. He's an ineffective attacker, a very poor tactical kicker and slow. He's really the only Agar signing left at the club and looking likely to be shown the door.
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| Quote: Houghtons Heroes "KEPT as in didnt release him when it was found he really wasn't pulling his [considerable] weight, was massively unfit and was strongly rumoured to be dropped for laziness and troublecausing reasons. Then you have the 10 minute wonder Paea who really isn't a patch on Watts or Taylor.
My feelings on Seymour are well documented. I didn't want him in the first place and still don't want him. He's an ineffective attacker, a very poor tactical kicker and slow. He's really the only Agar signing left at the club and looking likely to be shown the door.'"
Rovers realeased Clinton when his contract expired. A point you failed to grasp, rather unsurprisingly. Paea out performed both Talyor and Watts for Rovers last season, he was our best forward and none of his spells are anything approaching 10 minutes. You clearly have him confused with someone else, again this is not surprising.
As for Seymour, you can show him as many doors as you like, but with 2 years remaining on a lucrative contract he can decide not to walk through any of them. This, as I obviously need to spell it out, is the point I was making, and why I drew parallels with Clinton's time at Rovers.
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| Ah, so you wait for contracts to expire, do you? Like Green's? Like Watts'? Like Taylor's? Like Mason?
I could go on, but it's wasted. The difference between Clinton and Seymour is obvious. One came to this country with a big reputation and spectacularly failed to live up to it and his high salary. In fact, he became so unfit he was a figure of ridicule. Seymour had no reputation, was signed in a moment of panic by the former administration and isn't good enough for a team with top 4 aspirations.
As for Paea, every time I watched him, he was poor. Both he and Mika played well in patches. Keep them. Please.
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| Quote: Houghtons Heroes "KEPT as in didnt release him when it was found he really wasn't pulling his [considerable] weight, was massively unfit and was strongly rumoured to be dropped for laziness and troublecausing reasons. Then you have the 10 minute wonder Paea who really isn't a patch on Watts or Taylor.
My feelings on Seymour are well documented. I didn't want him in the first place and still don't want him. He's an ineffective attacker, a very poor tactical kicker and slow. He's really the only Agar signing left at the club and looking likely to be shown the door.'"
Mickey Paea is better than Watts and Taylor, Watts has a great offload on him but doesn't make that many yards, Taylor makes good yards but not as good as Paea.
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| Quote: Houghtons Heroes "Ah, so you wait for contracts to expire, do you? Like Green's? Like Watts'? Like Taylor's? Like Mason?
I could go on, but it's wasted. The difference between Clinton and Seymour is obvious. One came to this country with a big reputation and spectacularly failed to live up to it and his high salary. In fact, he became so unfit he was a figure of ridicule. Seymour had no reputation, was signed in a moment of panic by the former administration and isn't good enough for a team with top 4 aspirations.
As for Paea, every time I watched him, he was poor. Both he and Mika played well in patches. Keep them. Please.'"
No, but to remove Clinton would have cost "cash strapped" Rovers a lot of money, unlike all the other's you list where the departure brought money in (Green, Talor, Watts), or cost nothing (Mason).
Clinton's comparative reputation with Seymour is even more irrelevant than your existance. The similarity however is that both are taking a pension from a Hull club. At least ours is thankfully over, you still have to deal (one way or another) with yours. Remind me, if Seymour's signing was a blind panic decision, why was he signed up 7 months before the season started? Everyone at your club seemed to think he was the answer at the timehttps://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f Maybe you were amongst them, obviously using a different troll name.
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| Quote: SirStan "No, but to remove Clinton would have cost "cash strapped" Rovers a lot of money, unlike all the other's you list where the departure brought money in (Green, Talor, Watts), or cost nothing (Mason).
Clinton's comparative reputation with Seymour is even more irrelevant than your existance. The similarity however is that both are taking a pension from a Hull club. At least ours is thankfully over, you still have to deal (one way or another) with yours. Remind me, if Seymour's signing was a blind panic decision, why was he signed up 7 months before the season started? Everyone at your club seemed to think he was the answer at the timehttps://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f Maybe you were amongst them, obviously using a different troll name.'"
Couldn't agree more,added to the fact that Watts was removed from our squad for basically being in Clinton mode then you can see we're addressing the problem. As HH says Seymour was a panic buy, whereas missing out on the show pony Chase and then signing Prince at 33 on a 3 year contract (see S.Long for the usual outcome to such signings) is a well reasoned piece of business.
Ellis aside the black and whites have completely failed to deliver on the postseason promises yet in Pearson they trust, anyone feel the emperor is lacking in the clothing dept.
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| Quote: barham red "Couldn't agree more,added to the fact that Watts was removed from our squad for basically being in Clinton mode then you can see we're addressing the problem. As HH says Seymour was a panic buy, whereas missing out on the show pony Chase and then signing Prince at 33 on a 3 year contract (see S.Long for the usual outcome to such signings) is a well reasoned piece of business.
Ellis aside the black and whites have completely failed to deliver on the postseason promises yet in Pearson they trust, anyone feel the emperor is lacking in the clothing dept.'"
I'm not prepared to comment on their recruitment, it's not really my business. I will say that they have recruited well in the most important position - coach.
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| I think Pearsons delivered well. Arundel and Crookes for a start. We have a decent halfback and hopefully the second will be confirmed this week.
We've never had a decent pairing, choosing the really overrated Richard Horne there, along with whoever fits in a shirt with 7 on the back.
We have a recognised Fullback, some damn good forwards and yes, a coach who goes about his business well and is slowly building the bones of a future.
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| Quote: Houghtons Heroes "I think Pearsons delivered well. Arundel and Crookes for a start. We have a decent halfback and hopefully the second will be confirmed this week.
We've never had a decent pairing, choosing the really overrated Richard Horne there, along with whoever fits in a shirt with 7 on the back.
We have a recognised Fullback, some damn good forwards and yes, a coach who goes about his business well and is slowly building the bones of a future.'"
None of which has any relevance on our board, on a thread about Rovers losing a few young kids. Thread derailment as well as poor trolling, all in a day's work eh? You do understand that last term don't you?
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| Great.
Couldn't give a rats ass.
Bore off Borey McBorefest.
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| rover 49 - there is nothing average about young Petersen. Every game he played last season for Workington he never gave less than 110%.
cridling stubbxii - why is it that all the SL clubs are doing away with junior teams and linking up with Championship and Championship 1 clubs? The standard of rugby in these divisions has come on immensely in the past 2 or 3 years and SL clubs want their up and coming players to play in a more competitive environment. Maybe you need to go along and watch some of these games!!!!
Dave Petersen will be a success down under because he has the commitment to make it happen. Good luck to the lad and he takes nothing but the best wishes from all his Workington Town fans.
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| Quote: Geekay "rover 49 - there is nothing average about young Petersen. Every game he played last season for Workington he never gave less than 110%.
cridling stubbxii - why is it that all the SL clubs are doing away with junior teams and linking up with Championship and Championship 1 clubs? The standard of rugby in these divisions has come on immensely in the past 2 or 3 years and SL clubs want their up and coming players to play in a more competitive environment. Maybe you need to go along and watch some of these games!!!!
Dave Petersen will be a success down under because he has the commitment to make it happen. Good luck to the lad and he takes nothing but the best wishes from all his Workington Town fans.'"
your right and hopefully he will come back to us after hes done his stint in aus
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| Quote: Geekay "rover 49 - there is nothing average about young Petersen. Every game he played last season for Workington he never gave less than 110%.
cridling stubbxii - why is it that all the SL clubs are doing away with junior teams and linking up with Championship and Championship 1 clubs? The standard of rugby in these divisions has come on immensely in the past 2 or 3 years and SL clubs want their up and coming players to play in a more competitive environment. Maybe you need to go along and watch some of these games!!!!
Dave Petersen will be a success down under because he has the commitment to make it happen. Good luck to the lad and he takes nothing but the best wishes from all his Workington Town fans.'"
Here, here mate. Dave Peterson had a great stint with you guys, and I was impressed with how he stepped up to SL standard during our fizzle out at the end of the season. I'm sure he's got a future in the game and it should have been in East Hull.
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