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Quote: clubfoot fc "I do agree with you the whole transfers/agent situation is a joke

The anti tampering rule is a waste of paper if the rfl dont enforce it.

I'm not sure how limiting the players an agent can have will make any difference though because the agenst will just pool their players together again.

I'm not sure what the answer is though'"




The RFL are a joke full stop who ran it in the 80's god wish we cud go back to the 80's

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Quote: gingerspice "The RFL are a joke full stop who ran it in the 80's god wish we cud go back to the 80's'"



typical Rovers eh icon_biggrin.gif

No point going back to the 80's as you'd have to go through the 90's again.

Hopefully watkins will right some of the many wrongs with the rfl

We live in hope

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Quote: clubfoot fc "typical Rovers eh


It's not just about the rugby in the 80's u know was thinking of the clubbing to icon_smile.gif

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If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle. Frederick Douglas:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_30596.jpg



Dodgy deals have always gone on, even in the eighties. Birch and Hartshead Moor services were rife with players, agents and chairmen plotting their nefarious plans.

Dave Hadfield metions this in his excellent book "Up and Over: A Trek Through Rugby League Land".

Highly recommended, as a slight aside.

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Quote: gingerspice "It's not just about the rugby in the 80's u know was thinking of the clubbing to

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If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle. Frederick Douglas:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_30596.jpg



I've got mixed feelings about going back to the eighties.

Obviously, for the moustaches I'd love to. But on the flip side I had my sisters hand me down bike. It was sky blue with white tyres, no cross bar and a white leather saddle bag. I tied a bit of rope across it as a make shift cross bar.

Not a good look.

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[quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x] [quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.     Regards,   Matthew[/quote:3e09qe5x]:23521.jpg



Wasn't Howes one of the agent's NH got on side with when you were promoted?

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Quote: gingerspice "And what do u want a tufty badge and how u work that out do u think hudge will just hand him to u on a plate I dont think, I hope he joins rhinos'"

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Where did I say he'll be handed on a plate? I said IF he wants to join us he will, one way or another.
Nice to know you wouldn't be bitter about it though. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: gingerspice "And what do u want a tufty badge and how u work that out do u think hudge will just hand him to u on a plate I dont think, I hope he joins rhinos'"

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[quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x] [quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.     Regards,   Matthew[/quote:3e09qe5x]:23521.jpg



Quote: gingerspice "Maybe we could just pay Scott what he's worth'"


That would be the better option.

Players aren't stupid, well most aren't, the standard of overseas players are going down so young English internationals can write their own pay cheque.

Has Taylor been a better player than Clinton? What percentage of his wage do you think he'd be offered?

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Where did I say he'll be handed on a plate? I said IF he wants to join us he will, one way or another.
Nice to know you wouldn't be bitter about it though.


Why wud I be bitter about it u just think ur club has the god given right to sign every player that becomes available scotty is a grt player and if rovers haven't offered him what he's worth then that's up to them to deal with aint it that's why they run the club and not us, I don't know were u get of thinking were bitter all the time, no player is bigger than the club wel move on and probably learn from this, what u have to get into ur head not every player wants to play for fc if so why are u losing more than ur recruiting for next season.

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Quote: gingerspice "Why wud I be bitter about it u just think ur club has the god given right to sign every player that becomes available scotty is a grt player and if rovers haven't offered him what he's worth then that's up to them to deal with aint it that's why they run the club and not us, I don't know were u get of thinking were bitter all the time, no player is bigger than the club wel move on and probably learn from this, what u have to get into ur head not every player wants to play for fc if so why are u losing more than ur recruiting for next season.'"

If Pappa Pearson wants them then Pappa Pearson shall have them icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Sheldon "That would be the better option.

Players aren't stupid, well most aren't, the standard of overseas players are going down so young English internationals can write their own pay cheque.

Has Taylor been a better player than Clinton? What percentage of his wage do you think he'd be offered?'"




Taylor has totally outshone Clinton this season and he's passionate about his rugby u can just see that and when he comes on the pitch the game can change, scotty has also had sum poor games but no more than the rest of the team, I think green will step up now and it's about time tbh.

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Quote: Anakin Skywalker "I'm not just saying this over this lastest issue.
Agents can be a blight on the landscape.
This is a point in case.
How does Scott Taylor know Leeds, Hudds and Hull are keen?
Because his agent has been touting him around? otherwise how else do you explain it.
Having a few agents with so much sway in the game really isn't good for anyone as it just means players are distracted with talk of their next move even though they have 14 months left on their current deal.
Also has anyone looked on just how many players these agents have on their books?
As a RL club you can have the best coaching staff in the world but if an agent decides for personal reasons that his client base isnt going to play for you then there is suddenly a huge player pool that you will no longer get a sniff over.
IMHO there should be a limit of just how many clients an agent should be allowed to have.'"


That's coming from a very anti-agent and red & white point of view. Here's a different point of view:

The agent's job is to make sure that their client is getting the right deal for them, stopping clubs paying below their market worth and ensuring they're happy with the club they're at. Of course, agents stand to benefit from better deals, but it's not as if this is a big secret that players and clubs don't know about.

Taylor is one of the most brightest prospects in Superleague and has the ability to be at a top 4 club. With his age, his recent England call-up and the quality from the NRL drying up, he can command quite a decent salary.

We don't know what Hudge has offered him. Maybe it was way below what Taylor himself saw as his market worth? (We know Rovers are trying to keep the cap spend low). Maybe Taylor simply doesn't want to stay here and wants to move to a 'bigger club? Maybe Taylor has asked his agent to see what the interest is like out there? We don't know.

You also say that his agent could be 'touting him around' other clubs. On the flip side, it's not unfathomable that Taylor's performances have caught the attention of these clubs, and they've enquired through his agent & Hull KR as to his availability? Clubs can easily unsettle a player themselves and let their interest known, it can work both ways. It's very naive viewpoint you have.

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