I can give you a name, and we wouldn't have had to go out and sign him, just not release him to go and tear it up at Wakey.

Just because Clinton is gash doesn't mean Nev isn't. Thats not how it works. I'm loving how everyone on here knows details of salaries at both Hull clubs.

Indeed, appropriately less for his 5 less busts and 11 more missed tackles out of 40 more attempted....

Whereas Joel is more or less the same prop (worse in some respects..) as both yet is a "millionaire" in comparison...Morgan must be so proud of his marquee signing who he assured would make all the difference...hope Riolo made it worth his while....

Well I said Netherton = Dowes apart from Dowes has more than twice as many tackle busts in the same number of games. Lazzer said this difference was reflected in their repective salaries. Tbf Larry is usually bang on in his assessments so I was expressing surprise rather than questioning his statement.

Can just picture Morgan and Riolo in a Sydney roof terrace hot tub smoking cigars and drinking champagne whilst planning the tidy commission structures from next year's Crossman/Fitzhenry/Clinton type deals.

It's hard to be that great prop in the rovers squad, Mason in his first game was seen running from deep, making dummy runs and offloads, great, we all thought. Didn't do it again, like he'd been told not to.

Joel Clinton, when he runs from deep he doesn't give an inch and often comes off worse, there's a great vid on that video sharing website of him 'kocking himself out', he got injured last week doing same thing, bad to see the injury but good to see the effort. Fed up of our forwards standing still waiting for the pass, Vella takes 8 yards to pick up any pace, with him standing still the defence are on him before he has got going, could be so much better.

But Larry had already read my stats link, which showed a 9:4 ratio in Dowes favour and commented that the contracts reflected the differential.

Fair enough. Still like the rather plausible hot tub Machiavellian scheming scenario though.

still think he should be backup not first 17

Decent squad player, good workrate, unspectacular but solid enough. I would guess he's not going to be a massive earner so why not?