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Quote: Adeybull "Hmm. [i Lost "a lot of good players"[/i? Bit of curate's egg more like IMO, I'd say, although for sure there are several we could have done with keeping in an ideal world. Anyway, my quick takeLost

Deacon - derided (unfairly IMO) by most oppo fans; never same since that bad injury in the Tri-Nations though and far too predictable

Newton - won't be missed after a mediocre year, and rumours of trouble behind the scenes. Our late surge coincided with his being injured.

Morrison - one we will defo miss - if stays free from injury and not sat in the stand half the season.

Solomona - sat in stand most of last year; looked like could not be d.

Jeffries - never really shone. When we signed him, the Wakey fans rightly told us he has a few good games and rather more nothing ones (although now he is back with them he's God's gift again, funnily enough...)

James - sadly, no real loss

Tadulala - another we will miss, since we are light on the wings if we keep playing Sheriffe.

Cook - would have preferred to keep him, and think you have a good capture there. He always seemed to think he was worth more (in game time and money, I believe) than the coach did. Time will tell, but good luck to him.

Burgess - a performing Burgess would be missed by any club. Sam did not really perform to his potential for us for much of last season though, so we'll miss him less than we should. OK, two more very promising Burgesses coming through, even bigger than he is, but a way to go yet.

[i"Only gained a couple"[/i? Guess we'll know the truth of that better in a few weeks, butGained

Orford - not seen anyone suggesting we'd have been better keeping Deacon? Rep speaks for itself, although late arrival means will likely be a few weeks before we see him on true form though so make the most of now!

Kearney - played 7 against Leeds, and ran the show. It was like watching a different team - he was excellent. I think he will shock a few at 6 this season.

LeStrange - what a refreshing change from Newton - just like Henderson was a bit back. Another to shine at Leeds, and another I think will shock a few when he gets into his stride. In fact, with Orford Kearney and LeStrange at 7,6 & 9, I think you won't recognise the Bulls this year. And (from our point of view) for all the right reasons.

Reardon - I was chuffed at this signing, and early signs justify that. I think he will surprise his doubters this season, and will play out of his skin, and may well prove to be our most astute signing.

Sculthorpe - well we'll just have to see. He'll either be a revelation...
or pants! Definite wildcard for mine!

Hall - one hard guy, will take some stopping - early outings very promising.


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Watch out for Donaldson, Whitehead and Olbison to name but three. Potential for some future internationals in there. Might just see Crookes (injured most of last season) and Kopczak rise to the challenge too this year, and if Scruton carries on as he left off end of last season we'll cope without Sam.

Whatever happens on Thursday, I really do think that those who dismiss the Bulls as not having improved compared to last year may be being a tad premature. But feel free to write that down someplace, to throw back at me if (and heaven forbid) we have any kind of repeat of last season...'"

I think thats a fair summing up. Press predictions and predictions on here I think can't have seen much of our new signings, because the spine of our team 6,7 & 9 has improved massively and I think All of our new Aussies & Reardon will surprise a few people, I agree though Sculthorpe is one we'll have to wait and see

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Quote: TKOAH "Halifax vs Hull FC .... I think it was the game when Prekkie kicked a last minute drop goal from the middle of Batley.
Yes that was the game mate, it was 27-26 at full time and a good game to boot.

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Quote: Ewwenorfolk "I think thats a fair summing up. Press predictions and predictions on here I think can't have seen much of our new signings, because the spine of our team 6,7 & 9 has improved massively and I think All of our new Aussies & Reardon will surprise a few people, I agree though Sculthorpe is one we'll have to wait and see'"



You're closer to it than I am so probably have a better in sight, I just think it will take a while to gel the team and I wonder if mc is the man to do it. I just see Bradford in a transition year and develop more in 2011

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Quote: barham red "You're closer to it than I am so probably have a better in sight, I just think it will take a while to gel the team and I wonder if mc is the man to do it. I just see Bradford in a transition year and develop more in 2011'"


You are probably not wrong with that bit, to be honest. We've a few more OOC end 2010, and with the new guys signed up for a bit and the talent emerging from the academy (and a signing or two for 2011 in the threequarters... icon_razz.gifRAY: ) I think 2011 has the potential to be the best year for a while for us.

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Have seen Donaldson and Whitehead a few times playing in the junior grades and they looked top quality. Losing a player of Sam Burgess' ability would be a blow to any side in the world but given time i reckon these 2 may more than compensate for his loss.

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A whole host of variables at Bradford, I agree they've recruited really well in pivotal positions where for the last few years they've looked a bit devoid of ideas.
The big questions for me are;
Is McNamara the man to take them forward, has he got the vision and strenght of character to take the team into a new era? Personally, despite the obvious terrible slur on his character i'd like to see him succeed, always seems a decent bloke.
How quick will the new players settle and how quick will the squad gel into a team? Again, most of this weight will fall on the back room staff's shoulders.
Centre would be a worry for me, Nero doesn't seem to hit the heights he used to at Huddersfield and Sykes looks utter gash most of the time, I've admittedly not seen much of Crookes.
Lastly, possibly most worrying of all is Nick Scruton's picture on The Bulls website, hello sailor?!?

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Quote: Paul124897 "How about parking for this game? Can away fans get into parking at the ground or that school close to the stadium? or do we have to risk the streets?

You can park in the stadium for around £5 , or if you turn in towards the ground you will see the main gates to the stadium and carpark on your left , if you continue on 50 mts down on the right is a Sports club and Bar ( soccer sensations).. they charge £3 and a little easier to get out i guess

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Quote: barham red "You're closer to it than I am so probably have a better in sight, I just think it will take a while to gel the team and I wonder if mc is the man to do it. I just see Bradford in a transition year and develop more in 2011'"

Think thats a fair comment tbh, but I am hoping -although I do reckon we'll be better in 2011- that well do well this season as L'Estrange and Orford already know each others plays well etc. and Kearney has already been linking up with L'Estrange well.

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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



i think the bulls could well miss out on the play offs again. i thought so last year(me and ewwenorfolk had a bet on it and do again this year) i think the bulls for a few reasons are weaker than last season.

1, they have lost all their leaders, deacs, morrison, newton and burgess. the heart of the bradford club bar langley is gone.

2, they have lost their best player in burgess

3, if orford gets injured they are fooked, they have an nrl fullback who couldnt get a game at 6 is now their back up scrum half????

4, their squad is full of average journey men.

5, their coach is not up to the job.

this is just my opinion and i could look very stupid come the end of the season(it wouldnt be the first time)

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I just don't think it takes a possibly over the hill scrum half, and a couple of has over the hil NRL players (with niggling injuries) to turn you from a poor side into a good side over night. Sounds familiar that....

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Quote: Scott_HKR "I just don't think it takes a possibly over the hill scrum half, and a couple of has over the hil NRL players (with niggling injuries) to turn you from a poor side into a good side over night. Sounds familiar that....'"


I must have missed the signings of these "...couple of has over the hil NRL players (with niggling injuries)" somewhere - could you enlighten me who they are please?

Interestingly, I see that the "... possibly over the hill scrum half" is rated higher than all bar two scrum halves in the competition in his points value by at least on major RL Fantasy League site, despite him playing for a team that your mate above thinks could well miss out on the play-offs again.

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Quote: Adeybull "I must have missed the signings of these "...couple of has over the hil NRL players (with niggling injuries)" somewhere - could you enlighten me who they are please?

Interestingly, I see that the "... possibly over the hill scrum half" is rated higher than all bar two scrum halves in the competition in his points value by at least on major RL Fantasy League site, despite him playing for a team that your mate above thinks could well miss out on the play-offs again.'"


First and foremost, my post was a sarcastic dig at Hull's signings, not Bradford's.
Secondly, I do think Bradford have improved, but I'm sure you'll admit they needed improving did they not? Leeds have brought in Eastwood when they didn't need to sign any1, hell they could have released three or four and still be better than the rest. So Bradford are now, in my opinion, at a level to compete with the likes of Rovers, Saints, Huddersfield, but to have replaced the 6, 7 and 9 positions is a bit risky in that it may not gel straight away. And the loss of Burgess would hurt the best team in the world, so is definately going to hurt Bradford.

Oh and mate, don't embaress yourself by quoting a player's value in a Fantasy RL Game lol.

All in all, I just don't think bradford are going to be this force overnight, and we may have found our new warrington for this season

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Quote: Scott_HKR "First and foremost, my post was a sarcastic dig at Hull's signings, not Bradford's.
Secondly, I do think Bradford have improved, but I'm sure you'll admit they needed improving did they not? Leeds have brought in Eastwood when they didn't need to sign any1, hell they could have released three or four and still be better than the rest. So Bradford are now, in my opinion, at a level to compete with the likes of Rovers, Saints, Huddersfield, but to have replaced the 6, 7 and 9 positions is a bit risky in that it may not gel straight away. And the loss of Burgess would hurt the best team in the world, so is definately going to hurt Bradford.

Oh and mate, don't embaress yourself by quoting a player's value in a Fantasy RL Game lol.

All in all, I just don't think bradford are going to be this force overnight, and we may have found our new warrington for this season'"


OK...that makes more sense now. Yes indeed, sure did need improving - hence the changes. And I'd agree should make us more competitive now - Leeds will still be a big ask, although we've played a strongish Leeds team in a friendly and they looked far from invincible - and yes, it will surely take time for 6,7 and 9 to gel hence me not expecting miracles immediately. If we finish well up the top half of the table, and are challenging again for honours from 2011, I'll be content.

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As I've stated on the bradford site in the past, Bradford's recruitment reminds me of Wigan's trent barrett strategy a couple of seasons ago, they've spent big on one superstar in orford, added 2 or 3 other good aussies in kearney, hall and l'estrange and then seemingly with little salary cap left, they have plugged the holes in the squad with talented but untried youngsters oh and danny sculthorpe! The first 17 looks pretty good, but there's nothing in reserve of any strength so in theory if they keep their key men fit for a full season......

Incidently make up your own mind if Wigan's "all your eggs in 1 basket" theory worked, they reached the playoff semis from a lower play off position and reached the challenge cup semis but never won anything, I'm sure Bradford fans would take that after last year.

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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



Quote: Adeybull "we've played a strongish Leeds team in a friendly and they looked far from invincible '"


leeds did have peacock(5*), webb(2*), senior(4*), bailey(4*), ablett(3*) and kirke(3*) missing. they have 21 gf winners rings between them. plus nrl gf and world cup winner eastwood missing too. yes it was a strongish leeds team you only just lost to, but it could have been alot stronger and imo a lot harder to beat.

*gf winners rings per player

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